Toyota FT-86, Scion FR-S, Subaru BRZ

[Aeroscout977]

Looks pretty bad ass. It seems the joint venture with Subaru is coming to the states as a Toyota and not a Scion (Thank god). Here is the article w/ some pics and info on Toyota's new sports car concept. I am guessing it'll be called a Celica.

Geneva 2011: Toyota FT-86 II Concept is one step closer to production — Autoblog

- Toyota has been creating exciting sports cars for over 50 years
- 2000 GT established Toyota's global reputation for sports car manufacturing
- Corolla Coupe, Celica, Supra and MR2 consistently popular on the global market
- FT-86 II concept previews the next generation of Toyota sports car
- Entirely driver-focused concept designed to capture the intrinsic joy of driving
- Boxer engine for light weight, low centre of gravity and optimum power-to-weight ratio

Heritage – Half a Century of Passion for Sporting Performance
'When the Toyota 2000 GT was built, I was eleven years old – and I loved it. I said: "I want to drive something like this when I grow up". My dream came true when I drove a 2000 GT in a vintage car rally. That was a really great experience.

I want young people to feel those same desires when they see a new Toyota sports car. I want to transfer the thrill of the race track to our vehicles, and make driving fun and exciting for our customers.'

Akio Toyoda – President, Toyota Motor Corporation

Rather than relying on a heavy, large displacement powertrain for its performance, the FT-86 II returns to Toyota's sporting roots by combining a free-revving boxer petrol engine and a 6-speed manual transmission with compact dimensions, light weight and a low centre of gravity for the best possible power-to-weight ratio.

Both powertrain and driving position have been set as low and as far back as possible to optimise balance for maximum poise, high speed stability and dynamic agility. Allied to a front engine, rear-wheel drive format, this awards the FT-86 II lively, accessible performance, highly engaging, readily-exploitable dynamic abilities and maximum driving pleasure.

The FT-86 II concept is the result of an August 2009 announcement that Toyota and Fuji Heavy Industries will launch a jointly developed compact rear-wheel drive sports car. European sales of Toyota's new sports car will begin in 2012.

[Aeroscout977]

UPDATE

Pictures of our version the... Scion FR-S.






Japan and Europe's Toyota FT-86










Specs for the Toyota FT-86 and the Scion FR-S appear to be as follows.
Price:$20,000-$25,000
Weight:"light weight" Most people are expecting 2800lbs
Power: 200HP

???? Market for the Subaru BRZ STI!?!?!?


same specs as above however Subaru hasn't ruled out a possible STI version which as we all know will be in the ball park of 300HP. I wouldn't put it past Toyota to make a "GT-S" version as well or a Scion variant.


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I gotta say I'm getting pretty excited about this. If the price for power and weight are correct this could be a very good platform for Toyota to make a return to the reason why a lot of people love them. The trend of keeping aggressive styling in their concepts and remarks by Toyota, Scion, and Subaru about sticking very close to the concept designs should prove to break Toyota away from the bland perception they've had recently. I personally would prefer to see the car sold as a Toyota here in the states but that's nothing a rebadge can't fix.

[NBrehm]

Subaru looks kinda cool, the rest are way too ricey for me

[Aeroscout977]

^ I think the Subaru will end up being a better seller here in the US for just that fact. Their styling is a little closer with it's American counterparts. I think Toyota's side is going for "different" which would be in sharp contrast with their current line up. I'm still curious on how the STI might get styled. The format is suppose to stay RWD as well. I'm expecting this car to be like the IS300 was to the aftermarket community.

[NBrehm]

And with a Turbo boxer engine under the hood...yeah baby!

[Aeroscout977]

And with a Turbo boxer engine under the hood...yeah baby!

Yeah I believe the base model units from all 3 will be N/A variants. All though a turbo would be accepted far better in my opinion. A simple reflash should net the power and torque people would be looking for at a very good cost. I'm imagining the STI version will still be in 35K+ range. I wonder how long it'll be until someone does an LS swap =P

[VictoryRed08]

I have been closely watching the development of all of these cars and hoping for the best. I'm kinda hoping the Toyota comes to fruition, I can't see myself buying a scion (even thought I'm within their target market), I think they look great.

I'm hoping they don't deviate too far from the current styling, the N/A engine returns reasonable fuel economy & is respectably fast (lets say 0-60 ~7secs). Oh, and I'd like to be competitively priced... too much to ask? You be the judge.

[NBrehm]

No turbo no buying! I already have a slow car

[limited360]

There is boosted version... inside knowledge

[NBrehm]

There is boosted version... inside knowledge

I figured as much, nobody lusts after an N/A 2.5L Subaru motor. ALTHOUGH, the H6 would be cool too....ooh ooh, an H6 with a Turbo! Now we are talking!