So, what really causes these mass shootings?

[titan2782]

I was on meds for about 2 years. I quit them cold turkey. I got sick of the **** doctor trying to tell me to increase to dosage or "try a different drug, it may work better." Bottom line: do some soul searching, talk to a therapist, hug your close ones tighter, exercise regularly ( surprisingly profound effect on mental health), and set some goals and you will get through it. I know from taking those kind of drugs that mood swings and unstable behavior can be intensified and numbing depending on the situation.

It's a shame how much money doctors and drug companies are getting from the "diagnosis".

Sometimes there is no "cure" and the only thing to do is more/diff meds. I know first hand (as you do). When asking about alternative therapies they get mad and basically call you an idiot, ignore anythign you said like you didn't say it or in a kind voice, say that you are more than welcome to attempt other methods.

Unfortunately though, not all brain related issues can be solved with exercise

[Bohdan]

Perhaps the many kids out there that are at home on-line playing the Killing Games and become mentally hooked on them and then go out and play for real.
Lets start a ban on the play station games that many are on for hours a day killing all.

[rmass09]

Perhaps the many kids out there that are at home on-line playing the Killing Games and become mentally hooked on them and then go out and play for real.
Lets start a ban on the play station games that many are on for hours a day killing all.

See everytime this happens people blame two things I enjoy responsibly, games and guns. and games with guns. There is already a system in place to educate parents on weather it is ok. Also a lot of people with Asperger's use games as an escape, its one of the few ways unfortunately for them to communicate with other humans. Unfortunately it's not healthy for anyone to spend that many hours a day in one thing. Its up to friends or families to help the people.

Don't believe the media hoopla on anything like this.

In any case you absolutely can not blame one thing.

[2ltCruzer]

See everytime this happens people blame two things I enjoy responsibly, games and guns. and games with guns. There is already a system in place to educate parents on weather it is ok. Also a lot of people with Asperger's use games as an escape, its one of the few ways unfortunately for them to communicate with other humans. Unfortunately it's not healthy for anyone to spend that many hours a day in one thing. Its up to friends or families to help the people.

Don't believe the media hoopla on anything like this.

In any case you absolutely can not blame one thing.

I agree with this. While I'm not sure the general public really needs access to assault weapons, and high capacity clips, I don't think that its the root cause of the problem. Like the gun rights advocates say - "Guns don't kill people. People kill people," and that's true. However, they do make it easier and more effecient.
We can try to pinpoint why this happened and blame one thing or another til we're blue in the face, but I'm sure the fact is that there is a combination of many things that caused this troubled person to do such a thing. His planets were all aligned, sort of speak. We had the same thing happen here in Tucson 2 years ago. That kid was mentally ill. Why exactly? We may never know.

One thing is for sure: Banning guns and violent video games, or whatever else will not solve the problem. These acts of violence have occured throughout human history, long before there were guns and video games, and they will surely continue.

[XtremeRevolution]

Let's keep the discussion in this thread about the causes of these mass shootings, not about the cases for and against gun control. There's a suitable thread for that in the badlands section if you want to discuss that topic.

[obermd]

Sometimes there is no "cure" and the only thing to do is more/diff meds. I know first hand (as you do). When asking about alternative therapies they get mad and basically call you an idiot, ignore anythign you said like you didn't say it or in a kind voice, say that you are more than welcome to attempt other methods.

Unfortunately though, not all brain related issues can be solved with exercise

It's amazing how western medicine is so quick to discount anything it can't poke, prod, and measure. It's called "practicing medicine" for a reason - it's an art form based in biochemical science. There is a lot we still don't know about the human body and brain.

Exercise, even though it's not a cure all, can really help. This is especially true if the problem is related to endorphin and/or dopamine production. Aerobic exercise boosts both.

Perhaps the many kids out there that are at home on-line playing the Killing Games and become mentally hooked on them and then go out and play for real.
Lets start a ban on the play station games that many are on for hours a day killing all.

See everytime this happens people blame two things I enjoy responsibly, games and guns. and games with guns. There is already a system in place to educate parents on weather it is ok. Also a lot of people with Asperger's use games as an escape, its one of the few ways unfortunately for them to communicate with other humans. Unfortunately it's not healthy for anyone to spend that many hours a day in one thing. Its up to friends or families to help the people.

Don't believe the media hoopla on anything like this.

In any case you absolutely can not blame one thing.

You are correct that there is no one cause to violence in the US. That said, the violence shown on TV, in the movies, and in video games can lead weaker and/or slightly unstable minds to emulate the violence they see on the video screen.

[Beaker]

Depraved people cause them. Period.

Poor parenting and mental instability are the most common two specific reasons that results in extremely depraved individuals.

[jsusanka]

yep ssri's are totally related to these shootings. doesn't take a lot of investigation work to figure it out. but the government gets too much money from the big pharma to do anything about it.

it is obvious these ssri's are affecting our young folks who don't have a matured brain in ways the medical experts have not foreseen.

I think doctors are too quick to put kids on these ssri's and once they are on them it is difficult for some people to come off. kids are emotional train wrecks they are growing up they are changing rapidly and they will get depressed along with a 1000 other emotions. insurance companies don't allow any money for psychiatrist to actually spend time talking to these kids. just put them on a pill and ship them out so the bean counters can keep track of their short term financial incentives.

I am getting tired of my constitutional rights slowly being taken away. Once they are taken away it is a lot harder getting them back.

just my two cents worth.

[ADK_Cruze]

Interesting thread, but I think that one thing that has been overlooked is the fact that mental health screening and care has not only been defunded and marginalized since the 1980's, but it's also been hijacked by pharmaceutical companies and insurance conglomerates. What mass shootings come down to is the fact that someone is disturbed enough to kill a number of other human beings in a violent fashion. I feel, especially after working in human services after I got out of college, that if there was an adequate, earnest and well-funded screening process in places, we could catch these disturbed people before they get to the breaking point and steer them back away from it. I know this is not a gun-control thread and my comment was not meant to change it into one, but in all honesty, if guns were outright banned and destroyed, disturbed people would just another means of slaughter. Pipe-bomb, machete, park bench, furby... whatever they happened to have at hand. Guns are just a more easily facilitated means of acting out. What galls me is that everyone is so quick to assign blame to something they find disturbing. Be it violent movies, music, videogames, whatever. In closing, it's undiagnosed mental illness at the root of what's wrong.