Arrogant/ignorant people

[Hoon]

I used to think the same as the OP, but I don't know anymore. As someone who has been huffing coolant for the last 9 months my atttitude has changed. Even after numerous attempts reparing the problem GM is still telling me my car is unusual. It also doesn't help when all my Toyota, Honda and Nissan coworkers keep seeing me pull into work with rental cars while my Cruze has been in the shop numerous times. They having been laughing their butts off at me. Try to convice those guys to buy a GM.

This. Some are trolls, many have legitimate issues.

Personally:

Coolant smell/consumption
Weak clutch (which i believe is done as a safety measure to prevent breaking anything else...then again i don't like most stock clutches)
4th gear shifter vibration that i've gotten used to
Oil leak (hopefully fixed, we'll see)

Every car is going to have this or that, but after huffing coolant for the last 4K miles, getting no help from the dealer as expected, getting under the car myself and finding a substantial oil leak, i can't say i'm off to a good start for reliability. I'm sure within 3-4 years i'll be doing a clutch or a Verano 2.0T swap.

[obermd]

I expect to get some value out of a car when I trade it & would at least expect it to hold half its value in the first year. Geez. Leasing cost as much as owning if you didn't know.... you have to put thousands down which covers most of the first years payments(or the difference between a lease/owning monthly payment). That's not mentioning the limited mileage & the fact the car has to be in 100% condition when you bring it back or you will be paying even more.

I'm fully aware of the crap deal that leasing really is. I computed the simple interest rate on a lease one time and it made most credit cards look good. When I purchase a car I'm expecting to keep it for 10 or more years and put 180 - 200 thousand miles on it during that time. I actually had to wheel and deal with one dealership to at least get them to pay for hauling a car away. My rule of thumb is that I keep a car until either a major uncovered repair (transmission, engine block, etc.) needs to be done or the little repairs start pushing into the monthly price of having a new car payment.

[jblackburn]

I keep them until they start pissing me off by breaking all the time. When I have to waste time and money fixing things way too frequently, it's time to move on.

For a new car, this Cruze is less reliable than my 14-year-old car was with more stupid idiotic issues. Nonetheless, I'm hoping it stops soon, because I love the car and would like to keep it 10 years.

In case I do decide to dump it in another year or two, a decent resale value would be nice. Owned a Honda once, and sold it for more than I bought it for with 206,000 miles on it.

[Family0]

Maybe I'm lucky. My 2011 Cruze was totalled last April. 14,000 miles on the car, Blue Book payout was MORE money than I paid. (and more than I bought the 2012 new one for,go figure!)

In the meantime the price of the base ECO went up and rebates went down as well.

I agree, never buy a new car hoping to have it keep value. Better to buy a 4 year old car if you want some reliability and do best on future value.

[2013Cruze]

True that...never really done me wrong....except give big rebates on the cruze, and now I have a $12K car, down from 22K in 2 years....

Darn you and your rebates GM....

Just make half the Darn cars and sell them at full price...
I would likely be looking at buying something new now if my car was worth some money.

Does anyone know what he saying about big rebates on the Cruze?

[ErikBEggs]

My Cruze was worth $14,500 after the first year, with an MSRP of $24,850. Go figure... I'll think about getting rid of it in maybe another 150,000 miles ^_^

[2013Cruze]

My Cruze was worth $14,500 after the first year, with an MSRP of $24,850. Go figure... I'll think about getting rid of it in maybe another 150,000 miles ^_^

I got 20k when I traded in my 2012 Cruze LTZ RS for a 2013 Cruze LTZ RS.

[steve333]

GM is a company that needs to be prodded to repair issues they don't consider important because it isn't leaving drivers stranded (like the antifreeze issue). Multiple TSBs that don't have a definitive repair cause more problems for GM with customers than a random recall that actually fixes the issue.
I want GM to succeed and they need people to state what they are doing wrong in order for them to fix issues properly and retain loyal customers and attract new customers. I have over 3 grand in GM Card points waiting to be used but I held out because I wanted to wait for an engine upgrade. I am also waiting until they properly fix all the current reliability issues with the car.
You will find some people here who don't own a Cruze yet, probably many current Cobalt owners like myself, because this car is basically the new Cobalt.
I know that because of complaints on yourcobalt.com GM finally stepped up in some cases to finally fix known issues that most likely would have been ignored without all the complaining. Unfortunately having gone through so many issues there is a fear of buying another one so that's why many people come here to find out about reliability problems that aren't being recitifed. GM still hasn't properly taken care of front end and steering issues on my car so reading about the sticking steering at higher speeds obviously concerns me and other Cobalt owners (and Malibu owners as well with the same issues).
As the owner of a car that routinely gets panned I find myself sticking up for it in other places but joining the chorus of boos inside the Cobalt forums. We know from experience that GM needs to hear about these things-repeatedly and loudly. It's mainly a shout out to GM, not meant to offend a current Cruze owner without issues.

[Scottybones]

I recommend all the 2012 owners look into what there cars are worth, Mines also only worth about $12,000. Looking closer though it seems the 2011 & 2012 are worth about the same.

In a year or two the car should not loose that much more value & I should catch up with what I owe vs the cars value. This is typical for GM, is that not normal for every new car?

I hope I don't get blasted for saying this, but a lot of the reason that people bash american cars is their resale value. The saying that the best new cars make the best used cars isn't just a saying. Long term reliability has a lot to play in this. Sorry to say it, but Japanese cars, expecially Lexus has the market.
That being said, I love my Cruze and it definitely was the best bang for the buck. I will say that I made sure to get a certified car and I extended the bumper to bumper out too.

[XtremeRevolution]

I hope I don't get blasted for saying this, but a lot of the reason that people bash american cars is their resale value. The saying that the best new cars make the best used cars isn't just a saying. Long term reliability has a lot to play in this. Sorry to say it, but Japanese cars, expecially Lexus has the market.
That being said, I love my Cruze and it definitely was the best bang for the buck. I will say that I made sure to get a certified car and I extended the bumper to bumper out too.

GM took several steps to improve the resale value of the Cruze. That said, comparing it to a Lexus is hardly a valid comparison, and given the pure junk that some Japanese car companies are putting out now compared to their American counterparts, you're likely to see resale values drop. Honda and Toyota in particular stopped producing truly great cars in the compact segment over 5 years ago. They are now mere appliances that are starting to show problems of their own, which is guaranteed to drive down resale values.