Event Data Recorder ( EDR ) Location?
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    Event Data Recorder ( EDR ) Location?

    Does anyone know where it is located and if it can be removed or deactivated somehow? I know on my BMW it was integrated with the airbags and removing it would cause the airbags to not work.

    Side note: Lets keep this to the point/question asked and not discuss the "why" or "theory" of it.

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    Another Minnesotan on the forum! Most older GM vehicles were under the passenger seat. Since your in Minnesota check out Alldata at the public library. Look up the 2011 model year, you might find it.
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    It should be in the airbag SDM which should be under the passenger seat as stated, but GM has been known to put them under the center console also. Without looking at alldata, those would be my first two guesses.

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    If you do figure out how to disable it, and if in a so-called accident, whether your own fault or not. Be prepared to hook it up again before the police show up. Since you modified your vehicle, either yours or the other guys insurance company will deny you of any coverage.

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    ...and so it goes, BIG Brother gets even BIGGER...

    ...quoted from WIRED magazine May 23, 2011:

    "General Motors has been a leader in event data recorder technology, installing them in nearly all vehicles with airbags since the early 1990s. It currently installs Bosch EDRs in all vehicles sold in North America. The technology has evolved and now collects as many as 30 data points, said Brian Everest, GM’s senior manager of field incidents."

    ...this article contains a picture of what an EDR looks like: http://beforeitsnews.com/story/714/6...s_By_2013.html

    ...if you want to read up on EDR's: http://books.sae.org/book-pt-139
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    Quote Originally Posted by 70AARCUDA View Post
    ...and so it goes, BIG Brother gets even BIGGER...
    Its for our safety!

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    I poked around and found that there aren't any laws regarding the EDR. But your insurance could have something in their terms about it. And the common locations for them is under dash or between the front seats, the places least likely to be damaged in a crash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NickD View Post
    Its for our safety!
    ...do YOU feel any safer when the peeping tom looks in your bedroom window (wink,wink)?

    • Report No. NHTSA-NVS-2011-ETC-SR04, about Toyota Event Data Recorders (EDR): http://www.nhtsa.gov/staticfiles/nvs...background.pdf

    • from IIHS website:

    "Who owns the data and who has access? EDRs and the data they store belong to vehicle owners. Police, insurers, researchers, automakers, and others may gain access to the data with owner consent. Without consent, access may be obtained through a court order. For example, in a Florida criminal case involving a vehicular manslaughter charge, the police obtained a warrant to access the EDR data.5
    For crashes that don't involve litigation, especially when police or insurers are interested in assessing fault, insurers may be able to access the EDRs in their policyholders' vehicles based on provisions in the insurance contract requiring policyholders to cooperate with the insurer. However, some states prohibit insurance contracts from requiring policyholders to consent to access.8,9."

    • the latest NHTSA "Black Box" ruling 'update': http://www.crashdataservices.net/fil...04-0001_1_.pdf
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    Same rules apply in Canada. A warrant is needed to access the EDR unless the owner gives consent. Unless you're looking to cause some accidents on purpose or for insurance fraud I'd stay away from messing with it. The most it will do is prove you were not at fault in an accident or prove that you were at fault and need to make up for your mistake. There's not really a "big brother" element to it.

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    Well as I suspected, it got a little off topic here. Thank you 70AARCUDA for the info on the location.
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