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  • 05-22-2013, 05:15 AM
    spacedout
    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie View Post
    A diesel is always going to feel like it needs more HP as it has so much torque and limited reve you never really feel a power peak like you do in a petrol engine you just run out of revs and need a higher gear, but you do get used to it and never feel like the engine can't cope.

    It may be revving slow but its amazing how much speed all that torque builds. You can feel this same thing with the stock 1.4T(though less because of way less torque), if you shift every gear before 2500rpm you are only on the gas a few seconds in each gear. a couple gears later your already going at a pretty good clip, yet at those RPM only thing building speed is all the torque. Think the 1.4T has slightly less than 75HP at flywheel at 2500RPM, at 2,000RPM slightly more than 50HP.
  • 05-22-2013, 04:03 AM
    Aussie
    Quote Originally Posted by H3LLON3ARTH View Post
    Power came on at around 1300-1500 rpm and when it came it was a lot lol, the only thing it needs about 60 more hp (Hope Vince see's this lol) but I think I could go very far with that baby if it was a 6MT only way I will buy one.
    A diesel is always going to feel like it needs more HP as it has so much torque and limited reve you never really feel a power peak like you do in a petrol engine you just run out of revs and need a higher gear, but you do get used to it and never feel like the engine can't cope.
  • 05-22-2013, 03:10 AM
    CruzeTech
    Cars don't rot on the west coast, at all. And my uncle has a 1992 Accord SE 5MT with 713,000 on it. I also used to drive truck and my first tractor had 933,000 miles on it when I bought it. I drove it to 1,411,700. Diesel engines are built a lot stronger because of the higher compression ratios.


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  • 05-21-2013, 11:12 PM
    Blue Angel
    Quote Originally Posted by CruzeTech View Post
    You also have to take into account that Diesel engines just last way longer than gas engines. This engine shouldn't have any problem seeing a million miles.
    Most engines will outlast the cars they're in if they're maintained properly. How many cars go to the scrapyard because the engine is worn out? Hardly any, while most cars go because they're rotted from road salt or have so many issues with suspension/brakes/electrical/etc. that it's just not worth it to pay a mechanic $100/hr to fix it.

    Also, who keeps a car for a million miles? That may benefit the 7th owner, but not likely the first. Or second, or third owner for that matter!
  • 05-21-2013, 05:14 PM
    70AARCUDA
    Excellent question, but small amounts of gasoline shouldn't hurt any diesel engine...of course, if you refill a 50-gallon saddle tank with gasoline instead of diesel, things won't go well.
  • 05-21-2013, 04:56 PM
    Dale_K
    Does it have protection against misfueling with gasoline? I think some diesel cars now have this feature where the gas nozzle won't engage the filler neck properly, thereby preventing misfueling.
  • 05-21-2013, 01:53 PM
    CruzeTech
    Cruze diesel maintenance is covered for 2/24,000. Def tank is also covered. You also have to take into account that Diesel engines just last way longer than gas engines. This engine shouldn't have any problem seeing a million miles.


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  • 05-21-2013, 11:29 AM
    Suns_PSD
    Why is there no manual option? Do the math to see for yourself.

    If GM couldn't hide the true cost of that motor in w/ some expensive options you's pay about $3K for that motor.

    An Eco could get say 40 mpg using $3.30/ gallon fuel or cost $8,250 over 100K miles for fuel.

    A diesel manual might even get 50 mpg driven the same (very optimistic) but w/ fuel that averages about $3.70/ gallon fuel or cost $7,400 over 100K miles for fuel.

    Or what amounts to an $850 fuel savings over 100K miles. If the diesel option only cost $2K over the Eco option you'd still be looking at 235K miles to break even.

    So now assuming best case mileage for the manual diesel, w/ the best mpg (driven same as Eco) your pay back might take, what a decade?

    During that time one accidental fill up w/ gasoline would destroy all of your fuel savings. Maintenance cost more once the first 2 years is up (heck I didn't even account for the cost of the DEF). Diesel repairs cost more. The DPF requires some maintenance over a long lifetime. And anyone that would finance an extra $2-3K and pay interest on it for the chance that they might break even over a decade is just bad at math.

    No the 2.0 Diesel is really equivalent to the V6 gas option in the loaded up model of a car. It absolutely cost more but in return you get over 600 miles to a tank and loads of passing power. And it's for those of us that prioritize those features over absolute lowest operating costs. This is not the cost effective option over the Eco, it is the premium option for those that want a premium powerplant.

    Buying the diesel Cruze to save fuel money is similiar to buying a Tesla to save fuel cost. Sure you save fuel cost but you pay way more for the vehicle up front negating any fuel cost savings.
  • 05-20-2013, 12:22 AM
    Starks8
    2014 Cruze 2.0 Clean Diesel walk around and test drive - YouTube

    This one is a little better because it actually shows a video of a salemen driving the new 2014 diesel cruze around for a good 3 mins or so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1sVy0f3Ldk

    EDIT: Though off topic, I realized that when he put this diesel cruze in reverse that the camera still didn't have guidance lines!! I was hoping the Chevy/GM would have added them for the 2014 and beyond Cruzen since these guidance lines are now showing up in most 2014 Chevy and Buick vehicles!
  • 05-19-2013, 04:36 AM
    spacedout
    Quote Originally Posted by CruzeEcoBlueTopaz View Post
    Why in the world would GM not release a manual version ? Im assuming its because it would be even more efficient then the automatic version and they are staggering the release of their efficient lineup of cars. Or they arent selling enough manual cruzes to begin with. Either way I dont know for sure but what I do know is I will wait for the manual diesel cruze or stay with my current 12' eco MT.
    I actually think they will eventually have a manual trans, probably sooner than we think. Check out the Build your own page, why would they have it set up like more than one option is available? sure it only says Automatic but the "select trim" option makes a person wonder. Build Your Own Compact Car: 2014 Chevy Cruze | Chevrolet

    Why would they wait to release a manual? free advertizing when 6months to a year down the road they create more buzz about the cruze. Imagine if the 1.4T automatic gets 38mpg and the Eco 42mpg, If that 4MPG increase is the same a 46MPG automatic diesel is a 50MPG window sticker manual diesel. Better than some hybrid cars!

    However at the 2LT trim level price point or higher not many people want a manual transmission car. I suspect at this price point its probably close to 95% automatics. There is a reason all LTZ cars are automatics.
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