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    Diesel brakes vs regular gas brakes Cruze

    There is all the debate in the world about slotted and drilled rotors vs regular blank ones... this and that type of pad, but really a lot of it comes down to the actual size of the brakes themselves at the end of day. Meaning, 2-pot, 4-pot calipers? None of us will ever see a 6-pot setup on our cars, that's for sure lol


    But supposedly the new 2013/4 diesel has slightly larger brakes from what I understand?


    Anyone know if they will fit as a replacement for us regular gas guys? If the bolt pattern is the same... I don't see why the wheels etc wouldn't fit. Maybe slightly larger rotors and caliper/pad setup would be great for those of us who want to stop on a dime and give you .9 cents change back.
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    Hi Invierno, I have an Aussie diesel Cruze with the standard bigger brakes and the bolt pattern is slightly more spread out. I believe the US diesel is the same? All Cruise models in Australia now come with factory alloy wheels and the SRI and SRI-V 1.6T cars also have diesel size brakes. Does your car have disc or drum rear brakes? A good quality set of after market brake pads and linings can make a big difference to stopping power even before changing any OE hardware.

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    You would have to verify, but I think I heard on here the bold pattern is not the same on the diesel.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Invierno View Post
    There is all the debate in the world about slotted and drilled rotors vs regular blank ones... this and that type of pad, but really a lot of it comes down to the actual size of the brakes themselves at the end of day. Meaning, 2-pot, 4-pot calipers? None of us will ever see a 6-pot setup on our cars, that's for sure lol


    But supposedly the new 2013/4 diesel has slightly larger brakes from what I understand?


    Anyone know if they will fit as a replacement for us regular gas guys? If the bolt pattern is the same... I don't see why the wheels etc wouldn't fit. Maybe slightly larger rotors and caliper/pad setup would be great for those of us who want to stop on a dime and give you .9 cents change back.
    I dont know about the Diesel brakes, but i have the ZZP front brake kit on my car and its a 12" kit with 2-Pistons Calipers. (Normaly its 10.8" with 1-piston...)

    One thing is for sure tho : The stock brakes on a NA gas Cruze have no endurance, so :

    1. For spirited street driving or Autocross : Better Pads and better oil. ex : Hawk HPS pads and ATE Super blue racing oil.

    2. For Track / Lapping : Brake kit with best pads and good oil. ex : Baer 13" Pro+ kit with Hawk HP plus pads and Stoptech STR-660 oil.


    BTW forget about Drilled rotors, they are CRAP, unless your car come from the factory with them, like Porsche...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussie View Post
    Hi Invierno, I have an Aussie diesel Cruze with the standard bigger brakes and the bolt pattern is slightly more spread out. I believe the US diesel is the same? All Cruise models in Australia now come with factory alloy wheels and the SRI and SRI-V 1.6T cars also have diesel size brakes.
    Aussie is spot on. The new 1.6T SRi uses the larger Diesel brakes and tires (SRi-V gets even larger tires).
    The Diesel needs larger breaks and tires as it weighs significantly more due to that heavy 2.0L Diesel engine. It weighs almost 100kg (220lbs) more than the 1.6T SRi and almost 200kg (440lbs) more than the base model 1.8L.

    If you had the option of fitting the disks and calipers from the diesel I would definitely go ahead with it. Larger disks and larger pads.
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    Quoted from: Product Information 2014 JH Cruze Sedan and Hatch

    Brakes:
    • 1.4L and 1.8L 276mm front ventilated discs; 268mm rear solid discs
    • 1.6L and 2.0L Diesel 300mm front ventilated discs; 292mm rear solid discs
    Wheels and tyres:
    • Equipe & CDX (petrol) 17” x 7” alloy wheels; 215/50R-17-91V tyres (4)
    • Equipe & CDX (diesel)/ SRi 17” x 7” alloy wheels; 225/50R-17-94V tyres (4)
    • SRiV 18” x 8” alloy wheels; 235/45R18-94W tyres (4)



    Edit* For you Yanks that's 10.9" front and 10.6" rear on the 1.8L and 1.4L T
    The Diesel and 1.6L T gets 11.8" front and 11.5" rear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathan of Aus. View Post
    Quoted from: Product Information 2014 JH Cruze Sedan and Hatch

    Brakes:
    • 1.4L and 1.8L 276mm front ventilated discs; 268mm rear solid discs
    • 1.6L and 2.0L Diesel 300mm front ventilated discs; 292mm rear solid discs
    Wheels and tyres:
    • Equipe & CDX (petrol) 17” x 7” alloy wheels; 215/50R-17-91V tyres (4)
    • Equipe & CDX (diesel)/ SRi 17” x 7” alloy wheels; 225/50R-17-94V tyres (4)
    • SRiV 18” x 8” alloy wheels; 235/45R18-94W tyres (4)



    Edit* For you Yanks that's 10.9" front and 10.6" rear on the 1.8L and 1.4L T
    The Diesel and 1.6L T gets 11.8" front and 11.5" rear.
    What are the bolt pattern on youe cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by H3LLON3ARTH View Post
    What are the bolt pattern on youe cars.

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    Did a search and came across this on a smaller Aussie Cruze forum:
    "5x105 petrol 5x115 diesel"

    Did more searching and found this on Wiki:
    "GM (Chevy, Pontiac, etc):5x100mm, 5x115 mm, 5x120.7 mm, 6X139.7 mm"

    Edit* Seems like the post I found on the other forum is correct. 105 is the smaller sizing for the Cruze:
    https://www.rimsntires.com/packages....carModel=Cruze
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    Quote Originally Posted by Poje View Post
    I dont know about the Diesel brakes, but i have the ZZP front brake kit on my car and its a 12" kit with 2-Pistons Calipers. (Normaly its 10.8" with 1-piston...)

    One thing is for sure tho : The stock brakes on a NA gas Cruze have no endurance, so :

    1. For spirited street driving or Autocross : Better Pads and better oil. ex : Hawk HPS pads and ATE Super blue racing oil.

    2. For Track / Lapping : Brake kit with best pads and good oil. ex : Baer 13" Pro+ kit with Hawk HP plus pads and Stoptech STR-660 oil.


    BTW forget about Drilled rotors, they are CRAP, unless your car come from the factory with them, like Porsche...
    Don't you mean ZZP Brake kit, not Baer? Or did you contact Baer directly to have one developed for our car?
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