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    Latest Reports Say The Chevrolet Sonic Is In Fact Going Away

    The choices narrow further...……….but I'm still brand loyal.
    Latest Reports Say The Chevrolet Sonic Is In Fact Going Away | GM Authority
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    The Sonic is built in the same plant as the Bolt and as Bolt demand increases GM has been shifting production away from the Sonic and to the Bolt.
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    Yup, up at Orion Assembly, only about 30 min away from me. Doesn't surprise me in the least. Small cars like the Sonic are the opposite of the gigantic vehicles people are convinced they need to own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MP81 View Post
    Yup, up at Orion Assembly, only about 30 min away from me. Doesn't surprise me in the least. Small cars like the Sonic are the opposite of the gigantic vehicles people are convinced they need to own.
    Yeah, people are retarded!

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    Regardless of fuel price, smaller cars make sense for those who live in a crowded area. I'm not sure how well an all-electric car would do in that market, since the same folks may not have access to a home charger. They'd have to use public charging stations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChevyGuy View Post
    Regardless of fuel price, smaller cars make sense for those who live in a crowded area. I'm not sure how well an all-electric car would do in that market, since the same folks may not have access to a home charger. They'd have to use public charging stations.
    We had a '13 Fiat 500 Lounge for the weekend from work, and we took a trip down to Chicago. The car itself was pretty bad, especially merging acceleration with the non-turbo 1.4L, but I will tell ya - street parking at my wife's grandparent's house a block away from Midway was so incredibly easy because tiny car.

    Yeah, something like a Bolt would be great, dimension wise, but you'd really need to be able to charge while at work to make it work, if you don't have a garage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChevyGuy View Post
    Regardless of fuel price, smaller cars make sense for those who live in a crowded area. I'm not sure how well an all-electric car would do in that market, since the same folks may not have access to a home charger. They'd have to use public charging stations.
    These stupid subcompact SUVs are filling that niche now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jblackburn View Post
    These stupid subcompact SUVs are filling that niche now.
    How would you like to:

    A) Pay More
    B) Go Slower
    C) Handle Worse
    D) Get Worse Fuel Economy

    Yes to all? Here's your subcompact CUV!

    Why anyone would choose a Trax over a Sonic, or, worse yet, an EcoSport (make sure you pronounce that "Echo" Sport, not to be confused with the "Eeko" Boost engine, because that makes sense Ford) over a Festiva is beyond me...but they do, and it's horrible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MP81 View Post
    How would you like to:

    A) Pay More
    B) Go Slower
    C) Handle Worse
    D) Get Worse Fuel Economy

    Yes to all? Here's your subcompact CUV!

    Why anyone would choose a Trax over a Sonic, or, worse yet, an EcoSport (make sure you pronounce that "Echo" Sport, not to be confused with the "Eeko" Boost engine, because that makes sense Ford) over a Festiva is beyond me...but they do, and it's horrible.
    Well, I may be in a position to respond to the questions since I own two Trax's.....a 2017 and 2018, both awd Premiers.
    My wife drives the 2017, I drive the 2018 which replaced my 2015 2wd Trax.
    The 2015 replaced my 2012 Cruze which operated flawlessly during my ownership.

    I chose the 2015 because I wanted something with a bit more interior room than my Cruze. I really would have preferred a small wagon but, for whatever reason, no such animal from Chevrolet. I gave serious consideration to a Sonic RS hatch but the interior dimensions are still a bit on the tight side.

    As I write this, keep in mind I have several performance cars as well as a full size Silverado, but none of them were purchased to be daily drivers.......as a result, I can scratch my performance car and larger hauling needs without much difficulty.

    I am always in this never ending quest to find the right daily driver......something I can let the salt gods eat up (joys of snow belt living).
    At the same time, I ain't getting any younger and, although I can hop in and out of my two Miata's without fanfare, ease of entry and exit on the daily becomes a consideration.
    Also, a back seat that full size humans can sit in without feeling as though they are in 'purgatory' is a consideration since my acquaintances tend be, uh, older as well. Lastly, a (or two) baby seats for the grandkids (wife's car) may have to go back there from time to time.

    Pay more: yes, a bit, but these are awd and we know additional hardware costs........my 2wd 2015 wasn't but about a grand more than the Sonic I was toying with.....I figured this as the cost of space.

    Go slower: No doubt.....Same engine as the Cruze, several hundred pounds heavier with an additional gearbox but frankly, not as bad as one would think. And, truthfully, in the urbanized area I operate in, the stoplight gran prix is sort of a non issue. Again, I can scratch my itch with other cars in my fleet.

    Handles worse: Keeping the above in mind, it handles better than I ever anticipated but I'm not planning on a run at the auto x.

    Worse fuel economy: Just like my Cruze, very throttle dependent, same as any turbo......economy or power, not economy and power. Takes oats to feed the ponies.
    However, both of the Trax's (17 and 18) are floating in the 28/29 mpg range which I think is remarkable for all the weight and hardware this little engine is dealing with.

    My highway trip mpg is often in the 33/34 range.......I think that is amazing since the aero's aren't much different than a brick. The 2015 2wd would highway just under 36, so you can see the additional gearboxes effect.

    My own opinion about Chevrolet dropping the Cruze and Sonic: I think they are insane. IMO, electric cars are a great secondary vehicle for around town blasting, but.

    1. Regardless of range, recharging takes too long. The superchargers (DC quick charge) are down to 20 minutes for 80% charge. I cannot imagine anyone finding a 20 minute fuel (recharge) stop acceptable for 80% range.
    The above assumes there is a supercharger available as you pull in to recharge (unlikely imo).

    2. I do not believe this country has enough infrastructure to support a large population of cars recharging......not when certain parts of the country already experience 'brownouts' due to inadequate infrastructure and current producing capability.
    Also, once electric companies do start bringing the capabilities online you can count on your electric bill being adjusted.....meaning your home electric bill.

    I am amazed that GM is eliminating the Volt.....imo the perfect answer at this point in time.....a car that is electric for around town and yet can be used as a gas burner for cross country trips.
    If anything, I think they should be expanding on that type of vehicle.....but, who am I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robby View Post
    I cannot imagine anyone finding a 20 minute fuel (recharge) stop acceptable for 80% range.
    As a dedicated stop, I agree. But it might make sense if the stop is also a destination - such as a shopping mall or roadside attraction. If you gotta wait, you might as well enjoy the wait.

    I also agree we're really not ready for a mass shift in energy consumption.
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