I am the OP of this threat. I end up buying a 2017 LT Manual. Attachment 247249
Nice looking car. I like that color on the sedan with the RS package. :th_dblthumb2:
I'm actually surprised you found a leftover 17 with a manual, and not a LS. Congrats, looks GREAT!!!
Bingo. As long as it doesn't fail to restart, my complaints could be resolved by a 3 second delay.
I'm reasonably sure [email protected] has already done this for some customers.
(EDIT: it was my mistake going by memory and not verifying this with Jerry before my purchase. He has informed me that he cannot add a delay to the shutdown in his LE2 tune)
Stop sign, no cross traffic? I'll have my foot off the brake in under 3 seconds and avoid a unnecessary stop.
Parking and shutting down? I'll shift into park within 3 seconds of stopping and avoid a unnecessary stop/restart.
I can only speak for myself, so allow me to explain. I am 53 y/o and quite mechanically inclined. In the 1980's I worked in an Auto Electric shop, rebuilding starters and alternators. From the knowledge I gained from that experience, I have learned that auto manufacturers design their equipment to be mass produced as cheaply as possible. So, allow me to put that in other terms; Let's say the starter is designed to operate 10,000 cycles. If I use up 5,000 of those cycles needlessly, at stoplights, for example, I have cut the life of that starter in half. This, and not to mention the added stresses this put on the battery. I will say that my 2017 Cruze has a large battery in it, so there has been some consideration for that future problem. But I still would like to disable the feature. I don't want to be at a stoplight when the battery decides its lifetime is over.
I know the engine and transmission had modifications to handle the start/stop. (surface treatments on engine bearings and a fluid pressure accumulator in the transmission).
I believe the starter was appropriately beefed up too.
Additionally, the batteries are AGM technology that can handle lots of short charge/discharge cycles, and the car has a capacitor it saves up charge in to fire off the starter again.
I wouldn't worry about it if you are just trying to prevent failure. Failure rates on vehicles with starters designed for this heavy duty work have been very low (for instance hybrid vehicles).
However, I have had some people that drive my car tell me it annoys them, which I do totally understand.