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    This car is not a push-button start, there is a key attached to the fob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taxman View Post
    It bugs me when I get in the 2016, shut the door and BEEPBEEPBEEP.
    Yes, the remote's in the car, I just got in with it in my pocket.
    For me, what usually happens is that I get out of the car, but don't shut the door. Then, when I get back in, it beeps.

    What happens is that when you open the door, it's expecting you to get out. So, when the door closes again but you're back in the car, it's confused. Just close the door every time and you won't get that.

    What it needs is a sensor to detect someone sitting in the driver's seat. The door sensor alone is not a reliable indicator of if you're in the car or not.

    As for the OP, I have no clue. I'd look for aftermarket add-ons such as an aftermarket alarm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChevyGuy View Post
    For me, what usually happens is that I get out of the car, but don't shut the door. Then, when I get back in, it beeps.

    Last time it happened was when I picked up a few items at the store.
    It was earlier this week, but I can't remember if I put stuff in the trunk, the back seat, or both.
    I can see where that time I probably did something to confuse it as you suggest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChevyGuy View Post
    For me, what usually happens is that I get out of the car, but don't shut the door. Then, when I get back in, it beeps.

    What happens is that when you open the door, it's expecting you to get out. So, when the door closes again but you're back in the car, it's confused. <snip>
    This illustrates why I find keyless starting to be a solution in search of a problem. I never saw the upside in having the keyless setup. Seriously, how inconvenient is it to have to insert a key before starting? What advantages are there to this new way of doing things? And do they outweigh all the other crap that comes with it?

    Don't get me wrong, I understand you have to take what the car comes with - it's not always an option for the buyer. But what is the upside in doing it this way?

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    I like not having to take my fob out of my pocket.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plano-doug View Post
    This illustrates why I find keyless starting to be a solution in search of a problem. I never saw the upside in having the keyless setup. Seriously, how inconvenient is it to have to insert a key before starting? What advantages are there to this new way of doing things? And do they outweigh all the other crap that comes with it?
    It's a lot like cell phones. Most people didn't see the point - until they got one.

    It doesn't sound like much, but being able to walk up to your car, open it, and start it without digging something out of your pocket is a nice bit of luxury. Just one less thing to mess with. The honking is minor and not all that often.
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    Quote Originally Posted by plano-doug View Post
    This illustrates why I find keyless starting to be a solution in search of a problem. I never saw the upside in having the keyless setup. Seriously, how inconvenient is it to have to insert a key before starting? What advantages are there to this new way of doing things? And do they outweigh all the other crap that comes with it?

    Don't get me wrong, I understand you have to take what the car comes with - it's not always an option for the buyer. But what is the upside in doing it this way?

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    Meh, people said the same thing about keyless entry when that came out. I don't even know if you can buy a car without it in 2019.

    Generally push button start is not an issue. My friend has a 2007 Altima, one of the first non luxury cars I remember that had push button start. Never had an issue. But I think he's also on the 3rd stupid Nissan CVT...

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    Quote Originally Posted by plano-doug View Post
    This illustrates why I find keyless starting to be a solution in search of a problem. I never saw the upside in having the keyless setup.
    Keyless starting eliminates ignition switch problems relating to key chain weight and torqueing in the ignition cylinder. So there is a problem that keyless start resolves.
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    Quote Originally Posted by obermd View Post
    Keyless starting eliminates ignition switch problems relating to key chain weight and torqueing in the ignition cylinder. So there is a problem that keyless start resolves.
    Removing the 5 pounds of trinkets attached to the key chain helps that, too (I frequently fuss at my grown children about that.)

    FWIW, if GM hadn't changed the spring used in the ignition switch, that issue may have never occurred. I'm very pro GM, but it's hard to defend that one

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    Quote Originally Posted by obermd View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by plano-doug View Post
    This illustrates why I find keyless starting to be a solution in search of a problem. I never saw the upside in having the keyless setup.
    Keyless starting eliminates ignition switch problems relating to key chain weight and torqueing in the ignition cylinder. So there is a problem that keyless start resolves.
    It introduces new ones such as nonstandardized operation between manufacturers and driver's not knowing how to use the system or remember where the button is in an emergency.

    Back during the Toyota unintended acceleration case I remember one lawfirm or consultant conducting interviews with Toyota and Lexus.

    And a large percentage of the owners couldn't describe how to shut off the engine while driving down the road, nor could they describe accurately where the ignition button even was.

    Even GM hasn't been able to standardize all their pushbutton ignitions. They started with rectangular rocker switches, and switched to multiple shapes of single action pushbuttons. Some of them are completely obscured by the steering wheel, some are above the column centerline, some are below the column...Some are conspicuous and stick out, others intentionally blend into the form of the dash.
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