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    Quote Originally Posted by Ma v e n View Post
    It introduces new ones such as nonstandardized operation between manufacturers and driver's not knowing how to use the system or remember where the button is in an emergency.

    Back during the Toyota unintended acceleration case I remember one lawfirm or consultant conducting interviews with Toyota and Lexus.

    And a large percentage of the owners couldn't describe how to shut off the engine while driving down the road, nor could they describe accurately where the ignition button even was.

    Even GM hasn't been able to standardize all their pushbutton ignitions. They started with rectangular rocker switches, and switched to multiple shapes of single action pushbuttons. Some of them are completely obscured by the steering wheel, some are above the column centerline, some are below the column...Some are conspicuous and stick out, others intentionally blend into the form of the dash.
    Solutions to yesterday's problems cause today's problems. I 100% agree with you push button start/stop needs to be standardized and as much as I dislike government intervention I think this may be a case where externally enforced standards may be needed. As for the location of the push button - as long as I'm not going to hit it by accident (looking at you Gen 1 Volt) I don't care where it is.
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    New Silverados it's down by your knee.

    The Cobalt thing...That's a comedy of errors, starting with why they switched from the design switch and lock cylinder the ION used. Through to the redesign and the not changing the number, and people carrying 10 tons of crap on their keys, to people breaking law and speeding, drinking and driving, etc....

    There was no reason to switch to keyless ignitions because of that, especially when they still didn't bother to fully switch anyway.

    I'm over disliking that I had to get keyless access in order to get power/heated seats, and I do like the ability to walk up to my car and push the little button the door and unlock car without having keys in my hand. But that tech was available in 1997 and Id still rather have a key, that way I always know where it's at.
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    I will keep trying to find a solution to the horn honk every time you turn key off
    Thanks everyone

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