The 1.6 has been out in EU for quite some time, but EU emissions standards on diesel are not near as stringent as ours ( partially due to our trucks as well) . I can't imagine they've done away with urea injection systems. Even Mazda 6 with their diesel had to go back to drawing board because of emissions and performance issues.absolutely no way. epa is now holding their current crazy high emissions standards for diesel cars and im sure they wont loosen up. im not familiar with the new 1.6 oil burner so i cannot reliably comment on its reliability
More reliable: Very likely......the Cruze diesel had some growing pains not unlike any other new system.I wonder if the new diesel will have a more reliable/less complicated emissions system.
I got the feeling that the 2014-2015 CTD owner's were guinea pigs. As in GM wanted to test viability of the CTD idea. My car has been in twice for warranty service. The dealer got it fixed on the second try, and I think they received some help from the GM mothership after Patsy contacted me on this board. The second repair involved a ECM reflash and much longer diagnostic time & test drive. The first repair they slapped a sensor in and cleared the code. Second time after GM contacted them they did the repair correctly. A long way to say, that GM is working to improve the diesel technology, and the dealers don't see enough of these cars on a regular basis(which may be a good thing) to really gain a good knowledge base of experience to troubleshoot and repair. I think GM will continue to work to improve the emissions technology, especially after the VW debacle. I wonder a bit, since there is a large amount of German technology in the CTD, including a lot of Bosch parts, if Bosch has been on the level with GM.
Yes they are IMHO. Unless you're a trucker or a truck guy, its a whole new world to own a diesel, from maintenance & driveability to fueling and AdBlue fill ups. Its the fear of the "unknown" of owning one that scares people. OH, and that "stinky" diesel fuel all over my hands she said as she filled it up.i dont thinmk americans are scared of diesels, esspecially my generation. we did not see the soot spewing mercs back in the day. what may detur young american diesel buyers is a laque of push from dealers and just not knowing there is a VW alternative
There's a whole lot more $$ being made on the sales of Vettes, their halo car, than being made on the Cruze line or Cruze diesel. Thus no diesel school.I have noticed that all diesel pumps are always wet and oily. well some one considering a diesel cruze wont be in the budget for a 2500HD. everyone that asks about my car always says "really Chevy makes a diesel? i always thought only Vw did" maintain is easier on the diesel then the gas. besides the occasional fuel filter drain and swap there is nothing hard about it, the urea add is simple and easy to do and you hardly ever do it
GM has a corvette sales school they should have a diesel sales school including the Colorado and cruze
quite a few stations down here have DEF pumps that are just like pumping diesel so just as easy. yes the average consumer is lazy and i agree, but new VW owners will already be accustomed to the different pace maintenance and if they want to get a new foot hold on diesel then they need to gear the sales floor for it. instead of pushing the ltz cruze offer the diesel. gets better mpg has way more courage when you step on it.About the fuel filter drain and urea add, they don't even want to do that. .......Just put gas (or diesel) in it and go
Agree that it was developed in Turin, Italy and manufactured in Germany. But a fair amount of the parts under the hood are sourced in Germany. I wonder if the ECU is Bosch or the programming came from Bosch. The Tech 2 tools are manufactured by a Bosch subsidiary company. So it is not a great leap to wonder if Bosch is selling GM engine control software. If they are, is it similar to the VW software? So if GM wanted to cut save development time, they could shop for a supplier of engine control software just like they shopped for the Aisin transmission. Again, I'm just wondering about it. That being said GM did install the pretty complex DEF system, so I have a little confidence the car does not cheat.Isnt the large majority of the engine Italian, as in Turin Italy??? I know there's lots of German sourced parts and GM claims it's a German engine, but this engine was originally sourced many years ago with an agreement from an Italian manufacturer of these engines.
Regardless of whether they are Guinea pigs, except for truck owners and VW aficionados , the take rate will ultimately define the success of the new Cruze CTD 1.6. A salesman at a dealer put it best when he stayed that people love the concept of a car getting 50+ mpg, but diesels scare them and they don't want to pay for them. As I went to the dealer yesterday, I passed a station selling regular at 1.58 a gallon, a far cry from the 2.38 he was asking for Tier 1 diesel. On a 15 gallon fill up, that's $12 bucks. That too is what is going to hold up sale of any diesel product.