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42k miles on clock, car won't start, first time car try's to start and run and actually starts but then seems like it's not getting fuel and shudders and dies. I think I am going to replace the battery and see if that helps it, if that doesn't work tow to dealer for repair. The battery seems weak after a couple attempts to start.
 

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Ground strap?

Or more likely the EGR valve is clogged.

Are you running a tune?
 

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42k miles on clock, car won't start, first time car try's to start and run and actually starts but then seems like it's not getting fuel and shudders and dies. I think I am going to replace the battery and see if that helps it, if that doesn't work tow to dealer for repair. The battery seems weak after a couple attempts to start.
Yeah if the battery is more than 3 yrs old, that's where I'd start. Assuming you already did the negative batt cable.
 

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Upon reflection I had a volt meter on battery and it was like 13.75, it started and wouldn't continue to run, it would shudder, after multiple tries the battery went down. Think I will remove the EGR and do an inspection. Maybe new EGR and battery, glad this occurred at home and not away from home. Will get it sorted out, my first issue of any kind. Now I just need to find the EGR
 
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Actually.....your description makes me wonder if you didn't get bad fuel. How long ago (miles) did you get fuel.

This 'wants to run momentarily' business has me on the fuel quality thought.

Rob
 

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Actually.....your description makes me wonder if you didn't get bad fuel. How long ago (miles) did you get fuel.

This 'wants to run momentarily' business has me on the fuel quality thought.

Rob
I have driven over 400 miles on this tank so far, so that does not seem likely. My normal driving now is 700-1200 miles a week, so I have a fresh tank of fuel at least once a week.

Just changed to a new fuel filter a couple weeks ago and about 2000 miles ago.
 

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Throttle valve can get stuck too.

I think it's fairly easy to nudge the intercooler pipe out of the way. A few screwdriver taps can free it if it's stuck.

But really it should give you a cel... why not just read it and then you won't have to guess....
 

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Big shout of thanks to Tomko for suggesting it could be the EGR Valve. It was quite dirty with soot and stuck open. Took it out and cleaned with MAF cleaner and a small brush, reinstalled and car runs well.

For others with diesels it would start, it felt and sounded like it wasn't running on all cylinders and prior to the engine dieing there was a sounds of air gasping I guess I would call it.

I did purchase a new AGM battery, just haven't installed it yet.

I will write up a little procedure on what I did and the tools necessary to make it easier for others. If this continues to work properly this will be a preventative maintenance item for me, takes 45-60 minutes to do first time, might be a little less next time.

Also a big thanks to my neighbor for helping, we work well together, he has better mechanical skills and lots more tools than I have. I can do it next time if needed.

Also the forum is still a place to learn about your car, gas or diesel. One of our previous very active members @diesel also gave me some guidance as well, we text now and again, I miss him on the forum but appreciate his willingness to help.
 

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@IndyDiesel, Super glad it's fixed so quickly and easily, thanks for keeping us updated.

I miss @diesel and his contributions. Text him hi for me.
 

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Auto part

The EGR for those that do not know is on driver side back of engine down a few inches. It's black and has a red electrical connection.

Tools needed are a T30 or torx 30, really need 3-4 inch extension. I picked one up at Sears in some silly kit for 20 bucks.

1.) remove the electrical connection, just tab on top.

2) use the T30 to remove the two long fine thread screws, one on top which you can see, and one on bottom which
Can't see.

3) there is a bracket and a line and hoses that are in the way, rotate the EGR counter clockwise maybe a quarter turn so you can remove the EGR.

4) I cleaned mine, gm new ones are on eBay for 125, either clean really well or replace with new one.

5) reinstall and connect electrical connection. I tested mine not in to make sure it would close prior to putting back in car, kinda smells with smoke to do that. I also lubricants the valve shaft with some brake exhaust lubricant, it was thick. I made sure to clean well and make sure the valve moved freely.

It is a pretty easy job, I will in future remove and clean maybe every 35-40k miles and may even have a spare valve in the car in case I have an issue like @Gator had on vacation. I think if you clean it on regular basis would never have a problem.

I buy my fuel at just three stations most of the time. I drive mostly highway.

Hope this helps.
 

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title should be edited to reflect the repair

no one in the future will find it otherwise
That's fine on my side. I also plan to show a pic of what EGR looks like installed and it's location on the engine. Prior to this problem, I didn't know where it was located.

I left my little tool pack in the trunk, just in case I ever need to remove on the road.

The forum and all saved me several hundred $$$ since no tow bill and the dealer just replacing the valve vs cleaning it.
 

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That's fine on my side. I also plan to show a pic of what EGR looks like installed and it's location on the engine. Prior to this problem, I didn't know where it was located.

I left my little tool pack in the trunk, just in case I ever need to remove on the road.

The forum and all saved me several hundred $$$ since no tow bill and the dealer just replacing the valve vs cleaning it.
assuming you reused the gasket?
 

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is it traditional gasket material or ?


i considered inspecting my egr couple mos ago, but didnt wanna screw the gasket up
I didn't even look...should have...I did test the EGR to make sure it would close just by hooking up the EGR not installed, yikes it's a smoky mess, shut car off quickly. Amazing it lasted as long as it did. The emission system has issues for sure, but dang it cleans up the soot and mess pretty well
 
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