93 Octane Station finder

Jukebox Juliet

· #2 · Dec 3, 2015

spacedout said:
I stumbled onto this new website today, similar to the puregas website but for those of us who like 93 octane. Not many listed so far, but thought this is something my fellow cruzetalk members could help improve.

https://find93.com/

Wow I'm surprised there's 93 here! I've never been to Conoco... I might have to investigate.

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Discussion Starter · #3 · Dec 4, 2015

I've started adding the ones I see missing in my state, have a list of more than 30 I need to add.

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Discussion Starter · #4 · Dec 4, 2015

Since I had so many stations to add, I contacted the site owner and emailed him a excel document with almost 40 stations in 6 states. Hopefully some of you can add the ones you frequent.

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boneheaddoctor

· #5 · Dec 4, 2015

You people live places that DON'T have 93 octane at the pump at almost every station?

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theburro

· #6 · Dec 4, 2015

Command: "Add All of Texas"
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obermd

· #7 · Dec 4, 2015

boneheaddoctor said:
You people live places that DON'T have 93 octane at the pump at almost every station?

Yep. About 10% of the stations in Denver have 93. The rest top out at 91 octane.

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spacedout

Discussion Starter · #8 · Dec 4, 2015

boneheaddoctor said:
You people live places that DON'T have 93 octane at the pump at almost every station?

95% of the stations in Wisconsin only offer 91E0 as their premium grade. If you start to look around you will find a station about every 30 miles or so with 93E10.

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I haven't been to or seen a station that DOESN'T have 93 octane in more years than I can remember. Though I actually do remember 30+ years ago when it wasn't common around my part of the east coast. (Pittsburgh to Washington, DC and into Northern VA).

On the other hand...I don't know where there is a single station that sells gas WITHOUT ethanol in it.

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jblackburn

· #10 · Dec 4, 2015

On the other hand...I don't know where there is a single station that sells gas WITHOUT ethanol in it.

There's a handful down in SW VA, but none close to here that I know of.

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brian v

· #11 · Dec 4, 2015

I just drive into Shell ...yep shell ..rhymes with H E LL ........inois !

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adamcar

· #12 · Dec 4, 2015

boneheaddoctor said:
I haven't been to or seen a station that DOESN'T have 93 octane in more years than I can remember. Though I actually do remember 30+ years ago when it wasn't common around my part of the east coast. (Pittsburgh to Washington, DC and into Northern VA).

On the other hand...I don't know where there is a single station that sells gas WITHOUT ethanol in it.

Here is the best source I have found for non-ethanol gasoline.
Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada

A scroll-able zoom map:

Pure-Gas.org : Map of Ethanol-Free Gas Stations in the U.S. and Canada

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spacedout

Discussion Starter · #13 · Dec 4, 2015

adamcar said:
Here is the best source I have found for non-ethanol gasoline.
Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada

My cruze runs much better with fuel with ethanol in it, much less prone to engine knock. If you buy 87E10 and get phase separation(rare) you end up with something like 84 octane gas(no wonder this causes problems). 93E10 starts life as 91E0, so if phase separation does occur the lowest octane your car would see is 91E0(well and another layer of water/alcohol mix, but that would probably still be over 95 octane).

93E10 is almost always cheaper than 91E0, and even after thousands of miles of testing I only ever seen a 0.8MPG improvement with the no ethanol fuel. This was filling up at the same exact pump to eliminate one of the variables(see photo: ignore the prices, they are over a year old).

88 octane E15 runs better in my cruze than 91E0. Current prices, 88E15 is $1.80, 91E0 is $2.75(average). Even at a slight loss of MPG, my cost per mile is WAY lower on cheaper gas. Last fill up was only 29mpg(remote start use daily) but my cost per mile was only 6.3 cents per mile. I would have to pick up 13mpg+ on 91E0 to get the same cost per mile!!!! I will keep the no ethanol where it belongs in small engines, boats and long term storage vehicles(anything more than 3 months).

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Jim Frye

· #14 · Dec 4, 2015

Times have changed. It used to be we went looking for a place that sold aviation gas for our performance engines. Then there was the bottles of "104" to boost the pump stuff.

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spacedout

Discussion Starter · #15 · Dec 4, 2015

Jim Frye said:
Times have changed. It used to be we went looking for a place that sold aviation gas for our performance engines. Then there was the bottles of "104" to boost the pump stuff.

Nah, you need octane now cheapest way to get that is E85 and a tune to handle it. Nothing beats 96-105 octane for less than the cost of regular gas!!! Now with prices of regular gas so low the price difference is much smaller, Regular is averaging for $1.91 here, E85 is as low as $1.58

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adamcar

· #16 · Dec 4, 2015

It seems most of y'all say to use 93 Octane even in my stock 1.4 Turbo for slightly more power? Will it increase my mpg any if I drive in the same manner?

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spacedout

Discussion Starter · #17 · Dec 4, 2015

If your car runs good on 87 octane you probably will see little of any improvement. From user reports the 2011-2013 cars seem to run better on premium. I got a 2014 loaner from my dealer and it seemed to run fine on regular(I can't imagine anyone was putting premium in it). My 2012, runs like crap on regular, feels like a golf cart when taking off from stop signs trying to get across traffic.

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boneheaddoctor

· #18 · Dec 5, 2015

adamcar said:
Here is the best source I have found for non-ethanol gasoline.
Ethanol-free gas stations in the U.S. and Canada

A scroll-able zoom map:

Pure-Gas.org : Map of Ethanol-Free Gas Stations in the U.S. and Canada

Thanks...but as jblackburn mentioned....I'm right smack in the middle of a large area with none around. Almost an hour drive in any direction to the first one. But that will be handy for plenty of others.

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Jukebox Juliet

· #19 · Dec 5, 2015

boneheaddoctor said:
You people live places that DON'T have 93 octane at the pump at almost every station?

Iowa produces ethanol. It's easier to find E85 here than 93

87E0 and 91E10 are also the same price in Iowa. ($2.35/gal as of yesterday) The mid-grade is the cheapest because of the ethanol.

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Discussion Starter · #20 · Dec 5, 2015

Jukebox Juliet said:
87E0 and 91E10 are also the same price in Iowa. ($2.35/gal as of yesterday) The mid-grade is the cheapest because of the ethanol.

About 5 years ago I was in Iowa and couldn't figure out why the heck regular gas cost more than mid-grade!!! It wasn't until a few years later I found out Iowa law(at least at the time) required regular gas to be ethanol free. Same thing can be found here, 87E0 costs within 20 cents of 91E0, at that difference I have no idea why they even produce the lesser grade. With Iowa being the leader in E15/flex fuel stations, and being a large ethanol producer, I can't see why they would not have 93E10 for premium at more stations.

Most Cenex and Coop Gas stations here have three grades, 87E10, 87E0 and 91E0. 10 months ago one local one converted to a Sunoco, They still offer the same crappy gas selection. Another local Cenex Has two sets of Islands, One has 87E0, 89E0,91E0, the other 87E10,90E10,93E10. My cruze runs better on the cheaper 90E10 midgrade than the 91E0 premium.

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