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A 2.0T with a 8-speed? Wowsers.
 

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If the CLA is the benchmark they aim for, meh.

And then, what's the difference between it and the ATS? Seems like it would crowd Caddys lineup.
 

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The caddy lineup can be as crowded as can be ... as long as the performance version of the Cruze follows shortly thereafter :grin:
 

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The caddy lineup can be as crowded as can be ... as long as the performance version of the Cruze follows shortly thereafter :grin:
Agreed. It is much needed.
 

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How about a Cadillac based Cruze that is already here.



About 5 inches longer than the Cruze I got with one more inch of rear seat floor space. Seats were a bit more comfortable, but not for 40K bucks more. A lot more HP, but for that, had to pay an extra stiff price for very poor fuel economy. No thanks.

1976 was the last year a Cadillac was a Cadillac, since then was a Chevy with a Cadillac emblem on it. Ha, use to say you were paying for that emblem, really paying for it now. Still a short wheelbase, but tried to improve the suspension that really made it extremely expensive to repair, with really not that much improvement.



Ha, use to be like Elvis, loved those 50's Cadillacs, and were only a couple of thousand bucks more for one heck of a car, but sure were getting your money's worth. More for the history books.
 

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They should just do a dumbed down ATS....not as quick of an engine (cheaper) ....keep nice materials....keep the looks...make suspension less dynamic and more standard...but not cruze standard....there ya go.
 

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They should just do a dumbed down ATS....not as quick of an engine (cheaper) ....keep nice materials....keep the looks...make suspension less dynamic and more standard...but not cruze standard....there ya go.
Like the 2.5 ATS?

Cadillac | ATS Sedan
 

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I dunno......it is said history repeats itself.........I keep thinking Cimarron.......GADS!

Rob
Deja vu all over again.
 

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At least the Cruze is a good platform to start from
 
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They're doing it all wrong. They need to be re-working the Cruze to fit the 3.0L twin turbo and AWD. Perfect rally car to compete with the focus RS, WRX STI, and Evo.
 

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When I bought my Cruze I did a compare to the Cadillac ATS, and the size and dimensions were similar. Obviously the Cadillac has more creature comforts and engines with more power but there is a pretty stiff price for all of that in my opinion. I would like to see a cruze with more power to be offered. I have been reading the Buick Verano will cease production in 17. Cadillac is trying to appeal to a younger demographic and quit making the cars traditional retires purchase, big and a powerful v8, many of there older buyers have moved to something else. To me they missed the mark, prices very high and tried to be BMW and Mercedes instead of their own brand.
 
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They're doing it all wrong. They need to be re-working the Cruze to fit the 3.0L twin turbo and AWD. Perfect rally car to compete with the focus RS, WRX STI, and Evo.
And here is where the problem arises. GM was late to the "ricer" racing game with the cobalt SS, and it wasn't the greatest seller for them, so bean counters are afraid of the car not selling well again. The voices of the masses don't seem to hold any weight when it comes to manufacturers making what people want. A Cruze hatchback to compete with others in that category would be awesome, but GM will be fashionably late to that party again... If they show up at all.
 

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GM used to understand that even if one of their performance cars doesn't sell well, it boosts brand recognition. A 400 HP Cruze would bring many people into the show rooms, even if they don't buy that, they'll buy something with a bow tie because of the DNA. I guess that doesn't matter anymore. They're putting all their performance efforts into the Corvette, Camaro and a car that's named after a trim level. (SS) Basically they're spending all their time on cars people already know are fast but aren't going to sell in mass numbers anyway.
 

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GM used to understand that even if one of their performance cars doesn't sell well, it boosts brand recognition. A 400 HP Cruze would bring many people into the show rooms, even if they don't buy that, they'll buy something with a bow tie because of the DNA. I guess that doesn't matter anymore. They're putting all their performance efforts into the Corvette, Camaro and a car that's named after a trim level. (SS) Basically they're spending all their time on cars people already know are fast but aren't going to sell in mass numbers anyway.
I take it Ford sells a lot of cars that way. Customers come in wanting the 300+ HP variant of the Edge, Fusion, or Focus, and leave with one of the smaller, but still quite adequate engines once they see what their car would cost with options.

Me...I'm VERY interested in the Fusion Sport and less so in the hot Focus variants (they're fun to drive, but not practical enough). I'd strongly consider, but probably would not be entirely happy with, the regular 2.0.
 
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