are the Trifecta issues fixed for new orders?

Hey Guys,

We have most definitely addressed the 'touchy throttle' issues that initially were a problem upon launching the new more powerful update. Everyone that we issued a revision to was happy with the updates. Those who's calibrations required more finessing let us know this, and we were happy to oblige.

We have noticed that the reality is, that most people (every 14 out of 15 customers) are happy with the calibration as it stands.

I have stated this in other threads and via PM's: if you are not happy please let us know and we will do everything possible to work it out

NCHEVYHEVN said:

I would buy a different tune. Trifecta really messed up the tune imo. The mpg really dropped after I updated and the throttle response is terrible. Barely pressing the gas pedal causes the car to think you want 60% throttle. I ended up switching back to the old select-a-tune.

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I noticed that you never got back to us after we issued you the second revision. I see you downloaded the file though. We were expecting more feedback from you to see if we needed to revise it again.

Thanks,
Michael

WOT-Tuning said:

Hey Guys,

We have most definitely addressed the 'touchy throttle' issues that initially were a problem upon launching the new more powerful update. Everyone that we issued a revision to was happy with the updates. Those who's calibrations required more finessing let us know this, and we were happy to oblige.

We have noticed that the reality is, that most people (every 14 out of 15 customers) are happy with the calibration as it stands.

I have stated this in other threads and via PM's: if you are not happy please let us know and we will do everything possible to work it out




I noticed that you never got back to us after we issued you the second revision. I see you downloaded the file though. We were expecting more feedback from you to see if we needed to revise it again.

Thanks,
Michael

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That's because the tune is still not right. The last two tunes I was sent make almost no power. Just to drive at 65 mph on the highway I have to drive at half throttle and in 5th gear. I ended up going back to stock just to save on gas. My mpg went back into the mid 40s just by switching tunes. I unfortunately don't have my original select-a-tune file anymore so now I'm stuck and not happy.

I just really think this new PAL tune system is far too aggressive to get good gas mileage out of it. The performance is fantastic but I'm not willing to give up 5-7 mpg to have a little more power. I think Trifecta needs to have a separate tune for people who like select-a-tune. I just want a tune that has a linear throttle response and that I can switch on and off like before. The throttle response on the new system is way too sensitive.

Got my updated tune today, installed it after work. While I didn't feel that initial smash of boost to my face like the select a tune did, its more of what I'm looking for and am happier to be driving something fun again! Only drove around for about 15 minutes, but was getting used to the pedal travel, definitely a difference but so was their other version. I'm sure it'll be easy to get used to this one just like the last tune they put out. The power seems to have a MUCH smoother powerband, and at first would rev up to 4k rpm, but after driving it for a few miles it started to go down to about 3.5k-low 3'ish until it would upshift. The install took about 9 minutes with the transparency option enabled. Much quicker than the last tune! Can't wait to drive to work tomorrow so I get to try it out again, I need to look up how to datalog so I can make sure everything is ok, feels good though! Thanks for the quick reply, and the excellent update so far!

I have had no problem with my tune so far, with over a month on it. On my car the mileage difference is negligible and even if it did drop quite a bit, I wouldn't mind. The tune delivers more power and makes the car fun to drive. It's a completely different car once you install it. At this point I'm no longer worried about pulling 46 mpg out of the car, and am more concerned with having a fun and engaging driving experience and a car I WANT to drive.

If MPG is all that mattered to me I would never spend the money on a tune and leave it stock. I get people are used to having their cake and eating it too and many want to do that, but it's not always 100% possible. 30+mpg is still sport bike levels of gas mileage, I say install the tune turn off the DIC and enjoy the car for what it is. Too much staring at the ECO tab or instant MPG on the other pages will drive you mad. I did it for most of the time I've owned the car so far but realized I'm kinda missing the point, rather than focusing on driving and enjoying the car I'm staring at a little bar going up and down.

It was nice pulling 46mpg and bragging to everyone at work, but honestly I don't even think about it anymore. If I ever feel bad about MPG loss I look at our Terrain or my friends cars, and feel better again.

I definitely understand where you are coming from. I was looking forward to having the select-a-tune myself and was kinda disappointed when it was replaced by PAL. I liked having the control to know 'it's always on' or 'always off' and not have the ECM constantly 'guessing what I want to do with the car', if that makes sense.

I am sure they can get your tune straightened out, I know the the throttle response/input was a pretty common complaint around here and they got that sorted rather quickly from what I could tell. If not there are other options and I am sure you will find one you're happy with. Just was mentioning earlier to remind everyone not to lose sight of enjoying the car, but then again if your throttle feels completely wrong to you, you won't be enjoying the car anyway. I hope you get it sorted soon!

I've had two updates since the original Trifecta group buy. The 1st update helped with a slightly touchy pedal that I could have lived with since I have an auto trans. However, with the original and 1st update the transmission would hold each gear way too long. Even with a very light foot and it would not shift into 6th below 55mph. In manual mode I could get it to shift sooner into each gear and I could get it into 6th at 42mph.

The 2nd update helped with holding each too long compared to the first but it still wants to shift at 3000+ rpm if I'm over 10% APP (accelerator pedal position). If I'm under 10% APP it shifts between 2000-2500 rpm which is fine. But this threshold needs to be changed to 20-25% because sometimes light acceleration requires a little more than 10% APP. Also it will not shift into 6th gear under 50mph with 10% or less APP. I don't use manual mode as much with this 2nd update but now in manual mode it won't shift into 6th until 47mph.

The extra power is great, I don't have any complaints about the motor. But, I would just like the trans to shift like it did when it was stock