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cecaa850, your all over the place. lol. All I'm saying is selling a car that has already been tagged and titled and had a new engine put in it should not be sold as a new car.
I agree wholeheartedly with your first comment. As far as the second comment goes, I agree that if it were titled it should (can) not be sold as new. Personally I don't have an issue with the engine replacement scenario. You're getting a newer one that was in there to begin with and it would hopefully have all the latest improvements. I could be wrong but on an unsold vehicle, I think they have to put a replacement motor in, not just a short block but don't quote me on that. I'd contact a lawyer if it was sold to me without disclosure of that fact though. If I know about it up front, I'd most likely buy it and use that fact to get a deep discount.
 

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We got a previously-titled "new" car with 300 miles on it, and it's been problem-free. Of course, it was marketed and priced as a used car despite having its factory warranties intact. We gave up a few months of bumper to bumper warranty. As it turned out, we used the warranty exactly twice. The only other time the car visited the dealer was for a recall after it was well out of the B2B warranty.

I'd expect a previously-titled car with a new engine to be marketed and sold as a used "new" car. Same as a washing machine that was repaired under warranty and placed back out onto the sales floor.
 

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I am a new Cruze owner, but I'm an experienced automotive tech and I have one important piece of advice for anyone who's reading this, and anyone who experiences a similar situation with any make and model of vehicle. If an engine has run low on oil (especially when new), it has been damaged. Period. The dealer should replace the faulty engine with a complely new long block when the vehicle has low mileage, but the service departments make better numbers ($) by performing repairs and making labor hours. The promised advice is this: don't notice the oil puddle ;). Drive it untill it seizes and destroys the engine completely. I know it sounds painful, but this way you'll get the entirely new engine you deserve, and not some patchwork repair-job with scored internals from oil starvation, that may or may not run properly through the rest of the warranty period. They can't deny you warranty coverage. Just go out on the freeway, blow it up, then call roadside assistance and play dumb. Trust me you'll be way better off in the long run.
 

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I am a new Cruze owner, but I'm an experienced automotive tech and I have one important piece of advice for anyone who's reading this, and anyone who experiences a similar situation with any make and model of vehicle. If an engine has run low on oil (especially when new), it has been damaged. Period. The dealer should replace the faulty engine with a complely new long block when the vehicle has low mileage, but the service departments make better numbers ($) by performing repairs and making labor hours. The promised advice is this: don't notice the oil puddle ;). Drive it untill it seizes and destroys the engine completely. I know it sounds painful, but this way you'll get the entirely new engine you deserve, and not some patchwork repair-job with scored internals from oil starvation, that may or may not run properly through the rest of the warranty period. They can't deny you warranty coverage. Just go out on the freeway, blow it up, then call roadside assistance and play dumb. Trust me you'll be way better off in the long run.
My gosh, there's so much wrong with pretty much everything in that statement I don't know where to start.
 

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I am a new Cruze owner, but I'm an experienced automotive tech and I have one important piece of advice for anyone who's reading this, and anyone who experiences a similar situation with any make and model of vehicle. If an engine has run low on oil (especially when new), it has been damaged. Period. The dealer should replace the faulty engine with a complely new long block when the vehicle has low mileage, but the service departments make better numbers ($) by performing repairs and making labor hours. The promised advice is this: don't notice the oil puddle ;). Drive it untill it seizes and destroys the engine completely. I know it sounds painful, but this way you'll get the entirely new engine you deserve, and not some patchwork repair-job with scored internals from oil starvation, that may or may not run properly through the rest of the warranty period. They can't deny you warranty coverage. Just go out on the freeway, blow it up, then call roadside assistance and play dumb. Trust me you'll be way better off in the long run.
I'd want a new car at that point. I do not care for a new "engine".
 

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I am a new Cruze owner, but I'm an experienced automotive tech and I have one important piece of advice for anyone who's reading this, and anyone who experiences a similar situation with any make and model of vehicle. If an engine has run low on oil (especially when new), it has been damaged. Period. The dealer should replace the faulty engine with a complely new long block when the vehicle has low mileage, but the service departments make better numbers ($) by performing repairs and making labor hours. The promised advice is this: don't notice the oil puddle ;). Drive it untill it seizes and destroys the engine completely. I know it sounds painful, but this way you'll get the entirely new engine you deserve, and not some patchwork repair-job with scored internals from oil starvation, that may or may not run properly through the rest of the warranty period. They can't deny you warranty coverage. Just go out on the freeway, blow it up, then call roadside assistance and play dumb. Trust me you'll be way better off in the long run.
Honestly, you sound like all the other "experienced automotive techs" I worked with in oil change/tire shops over a 5-6 year period during high school and college.

A couple points:

1. An engine that has been run low on oil is not necessarily damaged beyond repair. If you were truly "experienced" you would have also seen the MILLIONS of vehicles on the road today with upwards of 100-200 THOUSAND miles on the clock whose owners truly do not care about automotive maintenance and run them low on oil for months at a time before getting the oil changed at the local Jiffy Lube and repeating the process.

2. If you negligently "don't notice" the oil puddle under your car and keep driving until the engine completely runs out of oil and grenades itself on the freeway, you would be extremely naive to think the dealership service department is going to blindly assume it just happened overnight and happily replace your engine at no charge. Contrary to what you say, the CAN and WILL deny your warranty coverage if you are negligent in maintaining your vehicle. At best, you would probably end up splitting the cost of the engine.

People like you are the reason the rest of us have so much trouble with dealerships when we need to legitimately cash in on our warranty when things go wrong.
 

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Honestly, you sound like all the other "experienced automotive techs" I worked with in oil change/tire shops over a 5-6 year period during high school and college.

A couple points:

1. An engine that has been run low on oil is not necessarily damaged beyond repair. If you were truly "experienced" you would have also seen the MILLIONS of vehicles on the road today with upwards of 100-200 THOUSAND miles on the clock whose owners truly do not care about automotive maintenance and run them low on oil for months at a time before getting the oil changed at the local Jiffy Lube and repeating the process.

2. If you negligently "don't notice" the oil puddle under your car and keep driving until the engine completely runs out of oil and grenades itself on the freeway, you would be extremely naive to think the dealership service department is going to blindly assume it just happened overnight and happily replace your engine at no charge. Contrary to what you say, the CAN and WILL deny your warranty coverage if you are negligent in maintaining your vehicle. At best, you would probably end up splitting the cost of the engine.

People like you are the reason the rest of us have so much trouble with dealerships when we need to legitimately cash in on our warranty when things go wrong.
Agreed.

You'll have seen the "low oil" light on your dash for quite a while. At that point the dealer will ask you why you didn't do anything when you saw the light come on.
 

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One of the issues I had was the fact that he recomended taking it out on the highway and blowing it up. There's so many bad things that can happen. Motor locks up, you loose power and can't get over, the semi behind you doesn't notice till it's too late to miss you. Maybe you throw a rod and what's left of your oil or maybe all your coolant is dumped on the highway. You go into a spin or maybe the person behind you does. The whole scenario is sophmoric.
I don't know about Chevrolet, but some manufacturers computers will log a code for a low oil light. The manufacturer can compare that to the mileage you had engine failure and if you've driven for an excessive ammount of time like that, will deny warranty coverage due to negligence.
 

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Good to hear it worked out.

Source? On another car board I'm on, there's all sorts of (to me) misinformation about returning new cars and lemon laws. For instance, there's no mandated cooling off/return period for cars in WA and CA.

So, I started a thread asking for people to speak up and point to reputable sources stating otherwise for any state. So far, nobody's come forward. :rolleyes:
Here is Connecticut's Lemon Law:

Connecticut Lemon Law Consumer Guide
 
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