Caynon and Colarado Diesel Release

This is the first I've heard of this. I assume they're doing it for mileage? If so they'll probably use the same engine but with more boost or a larger turbo. At least if they had brains. But GM isn't really known for brains.

They use a completely different engine. 2.8T diesel. I would imagine they do not share oil or fuel filters with the Cruze Diesel.

Wouldn't surprise me if they shared a fuel filter but oil is highly unlikely.

i am going to say that no parts are shared. You have the 2.0L for the cruze and the colorado/ canyon is a 2.7L. Both are turbocharger engines. but with capacity being different they have different demands for oil and fuel. I imagine that no part will be the same between these two.

--what parts would you think would be the same or interchangeable?

or did you mean between the two trucks themselves and excluding the cruze.

MPGeez said:

This is the first I've heard of this. I assume they're doing it for mileage? If so they'll probably use the same engine but with more boost or a larger turbo. At least if they had brains. But GM isn't really known for brains.

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There is a significant power gain between the cruze and these trucks... well in the torque at least. the horse power is 151 in the cruze verus 181 in the trucks. 2.0L vs 2.7L.

i am disappointed that there isn't more horsepower in the truck, but the towing capacity is 7,300 with 4x4. these diesels are being released for their towing ability. When you look at the per liter numbers the cruze 2.0 is has more horse per liter then the 2.7 does. but the trucks do have a better weight to power ratio.

I guessed they'd use the same fuel filter cause it's borrowed from the hummer parts bin. I think it would handle a 2.7L just fine.

kfr291 said:

i am going to say that no parts are shared. You have the 2.0L for the cruze and the colorado/ canyon is a 2.7L. Both are turbocharger engines. but with capacity being different they have different demands for oil and fuel. I imagine that no part will be the same between these two.

--what parts would you think would be the same or interchangeable?

or did you mean between the two trucks themselves and excluding the cruze.

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mainly filters. The CTD has been on the market over 2 years and you cant get a simple filter from you auto parts store. If the truck took the same filter the demand would grow. My Harley takes same oil filter no matter what size engine you have.

Thought it was a 2.8td not a 2.7

It is a 2.8 money_man....you are correct.

This Colorado is in no way related the H3 Hummer.....the previous Colorado was indeed related and built in the same plant in Shrieveport La.

This Colorado is built in Wensville.....same plant that assembles GM full size vans.....

Rob

The 2.8L 4 cylinder Duramax has 369lb-ft of torque at 2000RPM, the 5.3L Ecotec3 V8 has 383lb-ft of torque at 4000RPM. Sure the 5.3L has over 300lb-ft from 2000-4000RPM, but still pretty impressive the little 2.8L Durmax has virtually the same torque at half the RPM.

Suspect with the standard tow package, brake controller and exhaust brake on the 2.8L duramax and similar gearing as a half ton 5.3L with 3.42 axle gears, the Colorado diesel will out preform the 5.3L in light duty towing.

My family had 3 different 3/4 ton and 1 ton GM 6.5L V8 turbo diesels in the 1990's, they made 190HP and 385lb-ft of torque, so the 2.8L 180HP and 369lb-ft is great for a truck of this size and tow capacity.

I would imagine the engines will share a lot of exhaust and sensor components. i would think the Cruze was a test bed and they took the knowledge to the truck.

I think two motors were in the original plan. A standard 2.5 was in the 150+ hp range and the 2.8 181 hp motor was the option. I don't know if they kept the 2.5 cause it clearly didn't have enough hp or torque. The 2.8 has 369 @ 2 grand which still isn't that much. I have friends {dealership managers] who went to las vegas a couple months ago on GM's dime to drive all of the new models and their consensus was that the colorado diesels were slow [under powered].

The 2.8L diesel Colorado will be a FANTASTIC truck. Very efficient and more than enough capability. I love them. However, quickness will not be it's strong suit. A 5.3L Ecotec V8 Silverado will run circles around it.

Don't expect to see or drive one anytime soon. Most dealers haven't even been able to order them. None have even been produced for dealers. Ultra constrained.

I wouldn't buy a truck if it wasn't reasonably quick. It's part of the bonus of having a truck.

money_man said:

I wouldn't buy a truck if it wasn't reasonably quick. It's part of the bonus of having a truck.

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I'll give the diesel Colorado a pass, but otherwise, I agree.

The 6.2L in my Silverado is a blast. Completely unnecessary, but so much fun.

tunes said:

The 2.8 has 369 @ 2 grand which still isn't that much.

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That's 100lb-ft+ more than any engine offered in the competition(mid-size truck), and more respectable numbers for a truck than the 269lb-ft at 4000RPM offered in the colorado 3.6L v6 gas (car)engine. The 3.6L gas needs to be revved to the moon to have any power, the [email protected] means at the diesels [email protected] will match the 3.6L at the same RPM when you look at a dyno chart and have more usable low RPM torque to boot. The 3.6L will still be faster but will be out preformed when towing or driving in hills.

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However, quickness will not be it's strong suit. A 5.3L Ecotec V8 Silverado will run circles around it.

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Acceleration, yes. Towing, towing MPG and solo MPG will be the 2.8L strong suit. Seems most solo test drives have been averaging 27mpg with the 2.8L duramax, most 5.3L test drives are only averaging 16mpg.

Is that 27mpg combined or city?

No one knows actual economy. From the first drives, testers have seen lower-mid 20s in the city and low 30s on the highway.

"The 2016 Colorado diesel 2WD offers an EPA estimated 22 mpg city and 25 mpg combined. The 4WD model offers an EPA estimated 20 mpg city and 23 mpg combined."

Chevrolet Colorado Diesel: America’s Most Fuel Efficient Pickup

It needs an 8 speed...