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Ok, so my 2012 (11/2011 manf date) does not have an aux cooler as pictured with no lines running on top of the fan shroud correct?
The proposed 2014 LT purchase (Feb/2014 manufacture date) has an aux cooler as pictured with trans cool lines running on top of the fan shroud?
-The aux cooler on the 2014 makes the radiator fan replacement more difficult correct?
My AllData shows the same rad fan replacement procedure for both 2012 and 2014 with no mention of the aux cooler. No lines on top of fan shroud. So...
-Was the aux cooler factory installed for only 2013-2014 & 1/2?
I can see my 2012 has the 2 plastic cooler line retainer brackets on top of the fan shroud.
The fun fact is intriquing! well whats up with that?
-Am I over simplifying this?: Is it possible that the compressor makes noise working too hard without fan speeds 1&2 until the speed 3 turns on- compressor quiets down. Fan speed 3 shuts off and compressor has to work hard again and makes the noise? Can this be the noise cycle I am hearing, fan speed 3 on and off with compressor noise increasing when fan is off?
I agree that chirp is crank seal.
sorry to be pia and a bit nieve...
dont buy it..... for $7k you can get a car that hasnt been hit on the drivers side or that has all these repairs needed , the sloppy RTV, the missing pcv and god knows what else. $7k is a lot of money, You say doesn't sell cars over 100k miles........ and its been this beat on at under 100K? Runaway
 

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Thanks for the reasonable advice applicable in many circumstances for sure. To be a bit more clear from my previous posts, We purchased the Cruze from a nearby Chevy dealer who I've had good luck with for a number of years. Top notch repair/parts dept and highly rated all around. They sell new, certified pre-owned, pre-owned, and wholesale to the public. This car was wholesale to the public, it's a trade in, not serviced and available as is. Like for sale from a private owner. The wholesale cars are 3995 to about 25000, my purchase was 6895. I had unlimited access to check out the car, I brought it to an independent mechanic and got advice from a mechanic friend. All said and done, It'll be a great 1st car for my daughter. I've also owned and maintained a 12 cruze eco for 7 years and already know the drill, just gotta pass on what I've learned to her.
Price? Shopping in Ct for the past 30-40 days has been frustrating to say the least. I know used car prices will come down eventually but she needed a car now. We saw some really hidious cars in the 5-8k range, haha so shiney but just crap.
Anyway, i pickup the car tomorrow and I'll post some picures and post updates on the reconditioning work we do. As always, thanks for all comments. It really helps my diy efforts in keeping our cars on the road.
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Well...in the video the air conditioning is on. There is a chirp all the time, and a clunky rattle when air is on, more prominent on driver's side. Radiator fan is interesting as well, on/off high speed. Not my car yet but I was at a chevy dealership to consider buying this 2014 1LT rs with 119000 mi. As is, 'wholesale to public' offering. Intake and v-cover appear newer maybe. Bottom of engine and trans coated with oil. Oil on oil cooler area. Can you see the oil coating on lines and wires below brake resevoir, looks like it sprayed there.. Drives very nicely, looks beautiful, like new interior and body. Ltft good. O2s1+2 graphs good. Passed emission in June but torque says not ready. Oil streak in turbo normal.
Thanks very much for your opinions.
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I own a 2013 Cruze lt and on my first engine. yes first. Mine had a chirp. Mine sounded very similar to yours and was because the spark plugs had loosened. When I torqued them down again the noise went away.
 

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Here's the shiney view of the 2014. Felt good on the road. I'll dive into maintenance this weekend, oil/filter, replace all plastic cooling system parts and sensors, I'm hoping for a change in the rad fan operation if either of the old sensors are bad but we'll see. Then car leaves for a week w no air cond use till we figure out or replace the fan. Pcv fix kit, crank seal, serp belt and tensioner is another weekend. I think learning how to use an air condition test guage set would be worthwhile, buy or maybe rent?
 

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I'll dive into maintenance this weekend, oil/filter, replace all plastic cooling system parts and sensors, I'm hoping for a change in the rad fan operation if either of the old sensors are bad but we'll see. Then car leaves for a week w no air cond use till we figure out or replace the fan.
Ok I dove into the oil change, (it's Castrol Edge Extended w GM filter for me lately), new thermostat, outlet, resevoir/cap, return hose, sensors( I love the radiator sensor placement on 2014, upgrade from 2012) fresh 50/50 dexcool, T oil feed, air filter and a bottom of engine oil/dirt cleanup effort w rags. Then college daughter blasted off for college, but pledged to not use the AC until fan is resolved.
There was no change in the rad fan/AC behavior with new sensors installed so a new fan is next.
Question is has anyone changed out only the GM motor/blade/w wired connector/resistor pack? I want to stay with GM parts especially electrical components. The shroud looks fine however...but how would I know if this broken fan is a GM fan assembly? Labels or id numbers? Will the new GM parts install easily if it's an aftermarket?
Rockauto has the GM guts for $153.00. I should order a couple replacement relays just in case.
I received the fixkit v3.4 and will install it with manifold on the engine.
Before winter I'll need to buy a passenger front wheel well and front deflector shield. Any suggestion on the best body pushpin/torx connector assortments to buy?
When I do the wheel well, I hope to also replace crank seal/serp belt/tensioner.
I looked at the plugs and all looked like attached pic, but I could see a carbon buildup on piston tops w flashlight. I'll replace plugs when college girl shows up at dad's garage....
TIA for comments, suggestions

I own a 2013 Cruze lt and on my first engine. yes first. Mine had a chirp. Mine sounded very similar to yours and was because the spark plugs had loosened. When I torqued them down again the noise went away.
I did take out the spark plugs and although they were not torqued properly, they were quiet...chirp is still the crank seal but thanks for suggestion
 

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So, found your thread and figured these could help you out... Above is a SKP (rock auto), and below OEM. I have a manual 1.8L so I believe I have more wiggle room. But none the less, had to remove both rad hoses, and bend the aluminum AC lines over to squeeze the rad fan out. So leaving the fan shroud in would probably be the best bet considering tranny lines, and boost thingy's.

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So, found your thread and figured these could help you out...
Thanks very much! Quality photo!
I was curious about the 3 oem motor mount bolts/screws, and magnified they appear to be torx which will be an advantage with a ratchet in the tight space.
This is the rockauto GM "guts" I'll hope will work.


Also, relays...Quite a price range, I'll figure this out when the car finds it's way home

I will update as I go along.
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Hi all, new issue that daughter described: when accelerating, more so uphill and only city driving speed, she hears a "liquid trickling sound" generally on driver side, from dash area. I have not heard it yet because I have old ears...
Does not change with heater control adjustment. Air conditioner is off. Engine temp does not affect occurrence. Just did a coolant change but the sound was there before the coolant change.
no video at this time...
Educated guesses?
 

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Just discovered that the top of fan connector cover comes off. I tested fan speeds and 1&2 have failed. Only had the car for the time it took for 2 loads of daughter laundry so will carry on next visit.
 

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Hi all, new issue that daughter described: when accelerating, more so uphill and only city driving speed, she hears a "liquid trickling sound" generally on driver side, from dash area. I have not heard it yet because I have old ears...
Does not change with heater control adjustment. Air conditioner is off. Engine temp does not affect occurrence. Just did a coolant change but the sound was there before the coolant change.
no video at this time...
Educated guesses?
Low coolant level/air pockets in the cooling system running through the heater core.
 

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Update;
Since last post on this thread I installed new rad fan, top transmission oil line fitting and cruzefixkit. Fix kit is an enjoyable job. Rad fan was a pia because my original idea of changing out the fan guts with new GM guts fell through because the failed fan was an aftermarket. Different bolt pattern. So it had to be a Duralast. Sunday last minute purchase. I'll get a GM shroud to match my GM blade/motor/resistor and put it in the car eventually as I don't expect the duralast to"last".
Anyone reading this that is worried about the disassembly of bumper cover etc, don't be. It was very straight forward if you just follow instructions and take your time. The aftermarket shroud was a pia because it was too wide by 1/2" to fit the bottom snap-in brackets on the radiator. I had to modify by removing a bunch of plastic, it went in and out 3-4 times before a good fit. Also, in the 2014 we have has the trans cooler lines entering the radiator on the pass side and they are routed on top of the rad fan shroud, made it interesting but they were moveable because of the rubber hose segments that ran the length of the fan top.
Next job will be the crank seal. I have a HF Bauer corded 8.5 amp impact wrench ordered and I'll get a 14mm 12 point impact socket for the torx head bolt. Or a set. I don't see a set of impact female etorx sockets anywhere, ideas? Also, is it advisable to replace pulley when replacing seal? I have a new serp belt and tensioner as well.
Just getting over a 3 week car repair delay as I injured my right hand ring finger/4 stitches but it's on the mend.(air conditioner vs cellar floor)😵
will update and tia for advice
 
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