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Clutch delay valve & accumulator delete on gen 2
Hi,
That may sounds weird but let me explain.
I've been driving manual since my first car but with the Cruze I can't figure out if the car is the problem or if it's me. I have a 2017 Cruze. It's like I don't know how to shift. I'd say 1/2 times I feel like a beginner when shifting gear. And don't think of going from 1 to 2 quickly or it will grind. As of right now I want to change the car for an automatic trans. I'll go with a Spark if I have to.
I read somewhere that is a "feature". RPM hang or something like that.
Someone feeling the same? Any advice?
Thank you!
UPDATE :
If you don't want to read all, because why would you do that, here's the parts needed to delete the CDV and the accumulator.
GM 55352050 (Gen 1 elbow without the CDV)
McLeod 139160 (x2) (clutch line connectors)
McLeod 139100-42 or 139100-36 (would be long enough)(clutch line)
Thanks to Billy at McLeod Racing for taking care of my order.
That may sounds weird but let me explain.
I've been driving manual since my first car but with the Cruze I can't figure out if the car is the problem or if it's me. I have a 2017 Cruze. It's like I don't know how to shift. I'd say 1/2 times I feel like a beginner when shifting gear. And don't think of going from 1 to 2 quickly or it will grind. As of right now I want to change the car for an automatic trans. I'll go with a Spark if I have to.
I read somewhere that is a "feature". RPM hang or something like that.
Someone feeling the same? Any advice?
Thank you!
UPDATE :
If you don't want to read all, because why would you do that, here's the parts needed to delete the CDV and the accumulator.
GM 55352050 (Gen 1 elbow without the CDV)
McLeod 139160 (x2) (clutch line connectors)
McLeod 139100-42 or 139100-36 (would be long enough)(clutch line)
Thanks to Billy at McLeod Racing for taking care of my order.
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Hi Barry!
Yes gasoline. I used to watch this channel lol
Thank you
Yes gasoline. I used to watch this channel lol
Thank you
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Honestly, your best option to eliminate rev hang would be to get an engine tune. I drive the Diesel version of the car so I don't know a whole lot, but there are engine tunes available for gasoline engines for a moderate cost. That might smooth out your driving experience. It's worth asking the tuning companies about your problem to see if what they offer can help.
Anyone knows a good tuning company?
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How is the over all shifter feel? Is it sloppy or when you put it in 1st and l let go of the shifter does it float back near center?
The bushings on the end of your shifter cable and transmission might be worn-out.
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The bushings on the end of your shifter cable and transmission might be worn-out.
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Well I bought the car brand new. The shifter feels the same as day one. Speaking of the shifter I find it noisy. I feel the gears. It always felt that way. I was wondering if an oil change could help.
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An oil change can never hurt.
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The M32 is just a junk execution of a manual transmission. I owned one in my Gen 1, and it's worse in the Gen 2, so I went to an automatic.
In the Gen 2, the clutch is numb, throws are vague and clunky, the gear spacing is massive (old Eco gearing from Gen 1) and doesn't work well with the powerband of the LE2 that is sleepy below 2000 RPM, and the rev hang/heavy flywheel don't help matters much either.
There's not much a tune does for rev hang either, btw.
Things that DID help on the Gen 1, though:
-Clutch delay valve delete
-Clutch accumulator bypass (the two of these help with that stupid 1-2 grind)
-Amsoil 75w-90 transmission fluid
In the Gen 2, the clutch is numb, throws are vague and clunky, the gear spacing is massive (old Eco gearing from Gen 1) and doesn't work well with the powerband of the LE2 that is sleepy below 2000 RPM, and the rev hang/heavy flywheel don't help matters much either.
There's not much a tune does for rev hang either, btw.
Things that DID help on the Gen 1, though:
-Clutch delay valve delete
-Clutch accumulator bypass (the two of these help with that stupid 1-2 grind)
-Amsoil 75w-90 transmission fluid
Thank you all for your time and answers.
I'm starting to think that what's bugging me the most may be the clutch delay valve. Is it a complicated task to remove it?
And why is it there in the first place? Any downside to remove it?
UPDATE : I found a thread about just that
www.cruzetalk.com
I'm starting to think that what's bugging me the most may be the clutch delay valve. Is it a complicated task to remove it?
And why is it there in the first place? Any downside to remove it?
UPDATE : I found a thread about just that
Clutch Delay Valve Delete for Gen2
I recently bought a 2018 Lt and hated the shift characteristics from 1-2 and sometimes from 2-3. It is especially bad when doing any sort of spirited acceleration from a stop. So I decided to see if you could easily remove the CDV like the first gens. Some preliminary research led me to believe...
www.cruzetalk.com
The CDV is a... Hmmm. Limits flow so clutch is softer, takes longer to disengage engage clutch.
Rev hang I've only experienced in a NA engine, but generally it's about letting off the gas and letting the drivetrain consume the excess power, before or just as( keeping it smooth) putting the clutch in as the rpms platoe.
Rev hang I've only experienced in a NA engine, but generally it's about letting off the gas and letting the drivetrain consume the excess power, before or just as( keeping it smooth) putting the clutch in as the rpms platoe.
If I remove the CDV. Do I have to remove the acumulator as well?
Here is the parts I want to change so far :
GM GENUINE 55352050
GM GENUINE 55505687
Here is the parts I want to change so far :
GM GENUINE 55352050
GM GENUINE 55505687
Looks like the parts have already been replaced when they did the TSB PIP5558C on the car last year... It felt great when it got repaired but, at this moment, the car behave the same way as before the repair.
Looks like I can disconnect the accumulator. I ordered only 55352050.
Can't wait to try it!
Can't wait to try it!
First Gen also have both the CDV and accumulator, at least my 03/11 does. I'm the second owner and have been thinking about the delete myself although spirited driving is not my usual operating method.
Been meaning to visit a junk yard to see if its possible to just bypass the accumulator rather than rebuilding it, but its low on the priority list for me.
Been meaning to visit a junk yard to see if its possible to just bypass the accumulator rather than rebuilding it, but its low on the priority list for me.
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2011-2016 Cruze Limited Clutch Accumulator Bypass-BNR-CRUZEC
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Not to hijack the post, but that's the one that requires rebuilding the accumulator. I want to remove it completely and replace it with a length of high pressure tube not messing with that thing on the firewall at all. I have a double flange tubing kit from when I had to replace all the Brake lines on a Geo Metro.2011-2016 Cruze Limited Clutch Accumulator Bypass-BNR-CRUZEC
store.badnewsracing.net
I will say that the Cruze is the easiest standard to shift without the clutch that I have ever owned or maybe I've just gotten better over time.
Can the accumulator from gen 1 fit on the gen 2? Is it the same fitting? Then I could install the bypass.
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