[highmarker]

I dropped off my wife's Traverse at the dealership for an oil change and the service rep told me that a recall is coming for the "DEF Sensors" on the '14 - '15 Cruze CTD. It is currently "Pending" which he took as they are waiting for parts and that I should expect a letter or phone call soon to schedule an appointment and have the recall work done.

Don't know if this is good news are not.

Stay tuned.

 

[MP81]

Interesting. I should ask about this since ours is already there and I have to give them a call back anyway.

 

[obermd]

Thanks for the heads up.

 

[IndyDiesel]

I am assuming you are referring to a US CTD issue? I wonder if they will update anything with the fuel trim and frequent regens many of us are having?

I have 14k miles and zero CEL so far. I have put over 10k miles in less than 6 months.

 

[obermd]

There was a recall in Canada over the CTD's emissions system. I don't know enough about that recall but it's possible this is the same recall but that GM worked with Canada Transport and the US EPA to resolve the issue where its the worst first, knowing that parts availability is the limiting factor in fixing the cars.

 

[revjpeterson]

It's not for DEF, but it's for NOX1 and a software update.

If you click on the thumbnail, you can see the recall as it appears in my owner center.

 

[MP81]

So....the NOx1 sensor that is currently saying it needs to be replaced on ours...will be replaced via recall?

They should go ahead and add NOx2, O2 and the DEF heater on there, just so I don't have to pay anything...you know, cause it's only two years old.

EDIT: Reading into it further (on our account) it states "NOx position 1 sensor and / or oxygen sensor", so maybe there are 2 of the 3 sensors replaced under the recall.

 

[IndyDiesel]

In addition to sensor replacement the reprogram of the ecm may be very important as well.

 

[MP81]

Will be interesting to see what kind of impact that ends up having on performance - but more importantly, fuel economy (and regens).

 

[revjpeterson]

Well, once the recall is completed, every sensor that's not an EGT sensor will have been replaced on my Diesel. O2 was replaced under warranty (along with the EGR valve), and I did NOX2 and EPS. I keep hoping that NOX2, EPS, or the DEF reservoir will become part of a recall or special coverage so I can get a refund for the money I spent on the sensors. Maybe not, though... I know Chrysler/Jeep has gotten me on that because they would only refund the cost of the sensors if they were replaced by a dealership and refused if it was done DIY, even if OEM parts were used and bought from a dealer.

 

[boraz]

There was a recall in Canada over the CTD's emissions system. I don't know enough about that recall but it's possible this is the same recall but that GM worked with Canada Transport and the US EPA to resolve the issue where its the worst first, knowing that parts availability is the limiting factor in fixing the cars.

that recall still hasnt happened, no parts.

 

[MP81]

Well, once the recall is completed, every sensor that's not an EGT sensor will have been replaced on my Diesel. O2 was replaced under warranty (along with the EGR valve), and I did NOX2 and EPS. I keep hoping that NOX2, EPS, or the DEF reservoir will become part of a recall or special coverage so I can get a refund for the money I spent on the sensors. Maybe not, though... I know Chrysler/Jeep has gotten me on that because they would only refund the cost of the sensors if they were replaced by a dealership and refused if it was done DIY, even if OEM parts were used and bought from a dealer.

Well that's the big thing - I don't have a problem replacing the sensors myself (though I have a fundamental issue with them not being covered under warranty at only 42,000 miles on a car that's barely 2 years old, but I digress...) but I sure as **** want to be refunded for it.

 

[oilburner]

that recall still hasnt happened, no parts.

been so long since I received my letter I forget what it was for.

 

[diesel]

It's not for DEF, but it's for NOX1 and a software update.

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If you click on the thumbnail, you can see the recall as it appears in my owner center.

"depending on driving habits" - I must have the driving habits that this car likes - lots of highway and lots of driving it hard.

This in an interesting topic. I, personally, will probably hold off until I actually had a problem. I am just shy of 175K miles.

 

[MP81]

"depending on driving habits" - I must have the driving habits that this car likes - lots of highway and lots of driving it hard.

This in an interesting topic. I, personally, will probably hold off until I actually had a problem. I am just shy of 175K miles.

Absolutely. What you have works - no reason to change it until it doesn't.

 

[money_man]

So....the NOx1 sensor that is currently saying it needs to be replaced on ours...will be replaced via recall?

They should go ahead and add NOx2, O2 and the DEF heater on there, just so I don't have to pay anything...you know, cause it's only two years old.

EDIT: Reading into it further (on our account) it states "NOx position 1 sensor and / or oxygen sensor", so maybe there are 2 of the 3 sensors replaced under the recall.

You've had all those issues already?

 

[MilTownSHO]

Funny I work at a Chevy dealer and last time I ran my car this didn't even show up, but I just checked the owner center and it's been listed since December.

This sounds like the same thing as the TSB that already exists for this issue.

Might be awhile till the parts are available anyhow.

 

[diesel]

I looked up mine. A little further information about what the status means:

GM is working quickly to finalize the necessary repair procedures and/or obtain parts. You will be notified via written communication when the repair procedure or parts are available. You can also check back at this website or with your preferred Certified Service Dealer.

 

[MP81]

You've had all those issues already?

Yep. Parts fail - I'm an engineer, so this isn't anything surprising or enraging - but what I do take issue with is the fact it isn't covered on such a new vehicle.

Funny I work at a Chevy dealer and last time I ran my car this didn't even show up, but I just checked the owner center and it's been listed since December.

This sounds like the same thing as the TSB that already exists for this issue.

Might be awhile till the parts are available anyhow.

I looked up mine. A little further information about what the status means:

GM is working quickly to finalize the necessary repair procedures and/or obtain parts. You will be notified via written communication when the repair procedure or parts are available. You can also check back at this website or with your preferred Certified Service Dealer.

I believe "parts" in this case refer to the ECM calibration - I don't think the O2 and NOx sensors will change.

 

[revjpeterson]

I believe "parts" in this case refer to the ECM calibration - I don't think the O2 and NOx sensors will change.

The original part for NOX1 has already been superseded. The original part number was 12641556. An updated part, number 12662658, is now being produced in its place. Not sure if only diesels with the old part number will be part of the recall, or if they will recall all of them in order to start with a fresh, clean sensor after they reprogram the ECM.