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Following this thread : http://www.cruzetalk.com/forum/201-...cussion/196210-small-changes-reduce-heat.html

And after chatting with Corbin Murphy @ Fleece, i wanted to know how much power my car was making and if the 50hp tune was indeed stronger then the Race tune. (The tune you get when you delete)

So Corbin made a Tune that "should be the 50hp tune scripted over what you had." (The 50hp tune is one of the 3 tunes you get when you just tune a stock Diesel)

So here are the results : Dyno.jpg Graph.JPG Normal.JPG Power.JPG


https://youtu.be/1_zbidBTdsQ

1st of all, if you look in the picture where you see my car, on the blue shield its writen Mustang Dyno, so these are good numbers. The guy there never did a Cruze, didnt know Diesel existed and was quite impressed.

I was right! The 50hp tune is indeed more powerfull then the Race tune, but the amount of BLACK SMOKE you get is ridiculus, lol. The guys at Fleece did an incredible job on the Race tune to make it this powerfull with almost no smoke. On the Graph you can see the difference between the two tunes.

181hp and 296lbs of torque at the wheels for the 50hp dirty tune. The torque punch earlier too, its quite violent and funny when you drive.

173hp and 286lbs of torque at the wheels for the Race tune. Smoother driveability and no smoke.

Conclusion : I will use the 50hp tune only when i go Drag racing or to do stupid things. Its not worth it on the street for the difference with the Race tune.
 
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50 horse is fun but far to many regens, so been running 30 horse for almost 2 years constant.
still thinking of a full delete but the dam thing runs so good just the way it is with zero problems.

just bought a canyon diesel as well an going to give it a tune, also the transmission. Fleece guys are a pleasure to deal with!
 

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50 horse is fun but far to many regens, so been running 30 horse for almost 2 years constant.
still thinking of a full delete but the dam thing runs so good just the way it is with zero problems.

just bought a canyon diesel as well an going to give it a tune, also the transmission. Fleece guys are a pleasure to deal with!
If you didnt know, im already deleted. The 50hp tune that i have is an Hybrid between delete-race tune and the 50hp you get when stock.


And yes, 50hp tune is good for about 10min on a stock car b4 you get a Check engine light, lol.
 

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I smell fear.
Well, in about 2-3 weeks, when the weather is better here, i'll go on the 1/4 mile to test my car. Just do the same and we'll see!
 

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Nice numbers!
Probably has been covered before but what power range do they run in stock form?
 

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Nice numbers!
Probably has been covered before but what power range do they run in stock form?
Well, stock crank HP is 151 SAE certified, so i would say around 125-130hp at the wheels.
 

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Well, stock crank HP is 151 SAE certified, so i would say around 125-130hp at the wheels.
136.89 HP and 259.16 lb-ft of torque at the wheels last September. :)
 

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You have pics of that?
I have a video (not that it's much to watch - this was the quietest vehicle that day), and the chart, yes. I had to back-calculate torque, since we couldn't pick up RPM with the dyno. RPM is therefore also calculated.

But the dyno has wheel speed and corrected HP (so the HP isn't calculated), so it was easy to do.
 

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I have a video (not that it's much to watch - this was the quietest vehicle that day), and the chart, yes. I had to back-calculate torque, since we couldn't pick up RPM with the dyno. RPM is therefore also calculated.

But the dyno has wheel speed and corrected HP (so the HP isn't calculated), so it was easy to do.
Nice!

Those numbers seems to be in line with logic, especialy since its a Dynojet. Dynojet are always 5% over Mustang dynos in there results, so 136 would be 130 on Mustang and since i did 181 with 50hp tune, thats about exactly the right numbers.
 

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Yeah, that makes sense; the Mustangs always read a little bit lower. I was real happy with how it performed - certainly surpassing what the car is rated at.
 

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Yeah, that makes sense; the Mustangs always read a little bit lower. I was real happy with how it performed - certainly surpassing what the car is rated at.
Ya, GM are one of the only manufacturer to have SAE certified power, so its logical to expected decent numbers.
 

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The struggle is keeping Mr. TCM happy else it's gonna mess with how it behaves... I know Fleece has major issues with that.
 

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The struggle is keeping Mr. TCM happy else it's gonna mess with how it behaves... I know Fleece has major issues with that.
What do you mean by that?
 

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That stupid transmission can barely keep itself happy in stock form.
 

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Tcm refusing to engage the clutch.


Ya, i will probably buy a tune from Trifecta since they have a tune for the Tranny too.

The guys from Fleece told me that the majority of the time they would use it in Manual mode, so when i want to go full throttle its always in manual.
 
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