Diesel vs LTZ

I was reading here they took a 2lt and shoved the diesel into it. the ltz still remained king but i think gm marketed it wrong and will hurt diesel value. they should have had the ltz next to the diesel vs under it. from a consumer and bean counter aspect imagine paying the big premium of diesel and still adding ltz stuff into it... gm to make $ would have to sell it higher then the ltz so less would buy it or would create internal competition... my thoughts

I agree. LTZ and Diesel should have been equals. The fact we have the most expensive Cruze made, and it doesn't have a push-button to start the car, yet a less expensive model did, is always an annoyance - especially after we had that '16 Malibu for a few days.

And in all reality - not offering the diesel as an engine option on any trim level was a mistake, as well. I know plenty of people who would have bought one if they didn't have to pay extra for **** they didn't want (leather, etc).

agreed. i would have been more then happy for a diesel with a manual and just a base trim. i don't need leather i don't need bigger rims, i don't need certain things but Chevy wont they are to package happy to listen to customers. huge mistake was not offering a manual. would have saved me 800$ and made me the consumer much happier

The CTD is a 2LT with a Diesel powertrain. There are a few feature comforts in the LTZ that the 2LT doesn't have. The trim levels are

LTZ (2011-2016 Limited)
CTD (2014-2015)
2LT (2011-2016 Limited)
ECO (2011-2016 Limited)
1LT (2011-2016 Limited)
LS (2011-2016 Limited)
L (2016 Limited only)

The L, LS, 1LT, and ECO all have a manual option for their full production periods. The 2LT has a manual option for 2011-2014.

Ctd ftw

I somewhat remember hearing it was a 2LT now that it is mentioned.

That said - push-button start was optional on a 2LT.

A LTZ (MSRP) Diesel would have been way too expensive for a Cruze with some of the added tech functionality. They have done the options packages quite a bit differently on the new one.

If their marketing department is smart, however, hopefully the next gen will come with the 1.6 diesel in 2 trim levels (LT and Premier). They have mentioned that it will come as a manual, so the LT is already spoken for I suppose.

It will be more interesting how they do the Gen 2 CTD. Gen 1 CTD is over and horse already out of the barn. I would like to see the Gen 2 have a broader appeal and can get in cloth, manual etc. The diesel engine and the emissions required to build it sort of put it in a higher price to begin with. I would still think it will be a low production car unless fuel prices spike. The general public is buying more trucks and suvs which they probably prefer rather than a car that gets 50 mpg or more.

pandrad61 said:

huge mistake was not offering a manual.

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I have to wonder if not offering a manual was due to EPA regulations. Lugging a diesel could the car to fail emissions standards. I believe utility vehicles fall under a different catagory that's not as strict. Since the manumatic mode in the automatic will still auto downshift, that's not an issue.

What I recall is that since it was essentially a market test, they started off with what would be the most popular option if both were offered.

The diesel was a mix of 2LT and Eco packages. The car was designed to be comfortable, not too expensive, and fuel efficient. Thats why we have leather, no push button/passive entry, and active shutters with Fuel Max tires. I think they nailed it, although I would have liked passive entry.

The diesel was a mix of 2LT and Eco packages. The car was designed to be comfortable, not too expensive, and fuel efficient. Thats why we have leather, no push button/passive entry, and active shutters with Fuel Max tires. I think they nailed it, although I would have liked passive entry.

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They did a good job i think but more options would have been nice. i would have paid extra for a RS rear bumper (front im ok with) but besides point. i would have liked the option of push button start and automatic climate control

obermd said:

The CTD is a 2LT with a Diesel powertrain. There are a few feature comforts in the LTZ that the 2LT doesn't have. The trim levels are

LTZ (2011-2016 Limited)
CTD (2014-2015)
2LT (2011-2016 Limited)
ECO (2011-2016 Limited)
1LT (2011-2016 Limited)
LS (2011-2016 Limited)
L (2016 Limited only)

The L, LS, 1LT, and ECO all have a manual option for their full production periods. The 2LT has a manual option for 2011-2014.

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what aboot rs?

ChevyGuy said:

I have to wonder if not offering a manual was due to EPA regulations. Lugging a diesel could the car to fail emissions standards. I believe utility vehicles fall under a different catagory that's not as strict. Since the manumatic mode in the automatic will still auto downshift, that's not an issue.

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what manual do they have that can take the tq?

pandrad61 said:

They did a good job i think but more options would have been nice. i would have paid extra for a RS rear bumper (front im ok with) but besides point. i would have liked the option of push button start and automatic climate control

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I'd also like for fogs to have been standard and for the price premium I'd have liked push button start standard.

boraz said:

what aboot rs?

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RS is a package, not a trim level.

I didn't mind that I had to get the extra stuff om my diesel, ad i was mainly interested in the engine. I bought one with no additional options.

If they are going after VW, they need to have the diesel available on all trim levels, save maybe the L ans LS. That should put prices in line with what VW had on the Jetta. Jetta sales were at least 15% diesel. We will see if GM can duplicate that. it would mostly be a sales windfall.

what aboot rs?

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visual package , but on the cruze i think for a few years it put in the z link suspension

pandrad61 said:

visual package , but on the cruze i think for a few years it put in the z link suspension

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I think it was just on trim levels that had the Z-link?