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I think it was just on trim levels that had the Z-link?
IM sorry im not understanding you. i thought i read that even a 1lt with no z had it added with the rs pack... its been a while. i know ltz and CTd had standard
 

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I don't think the RS added Z-link - it was appearance only. It'd only have Z-link because the trim level had it already.
 

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What is Z-link?
 

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what manual do they have that can take the tq?
We had a 5m and later a 6m available in the diesel in Australia. There is also a base CD model and the luxury CDX. I have a CDX automatic which comes with automatic climate control and heated leather seats and I guess is like an LTZ. I believe the push button start is not an option because the glow plug function is controlled from the key start. Fog lights and heated external mirrors are also standard, as are 17 X 7 alloy wheels.
 

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I am fine without the push button start.. I like the mechanical turning of the key.. TBH a push button would just be another "something that could go wrong"...
Actually, it's less complicated than a keyed ignition module - and easier to package.
 

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Oh yes, all CTD has a button to start - Use your remote key. Oh dang, I still have to put key inside ign to start driving. Ha.
 
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I somewhat remember hearing it was a 2LT now that it is mentioned.

That said - push-button start was optional on a 2LT.
I prefer a key ignition over the push button start anyhow... I don't at all understand how it became a standard luxury item in cars to begin with? Who was ever buying a car and said "I love everything about the car but that annoyance of having to twist my wrist and turn the key to start the car is a deal breaker, I won't buy this car without a push button!"????? The transponder key remotes are expensive and easily lost. In most cases you can start and drive off with the keys on the roof or something like that and then you are screwed!!! We had this happen in the Nevada Desert outside Las Vegas after a SEMA photo shoot and the Lexus show car had to be left parked overnight in an In-N-Out parking lot then towed to the dealer and it took a week to get a working key for it.

I can't say I would not buy a car with push button start, but I can honestly say I do not like the tech, and wish it would go away!!! I think it is a VERY Unnecessary added expense on vehicles that have it and eventually it will cost you even more in the long run...
 

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Actually, it's less complicated than a keyed ignition module - and easier to package.
huh go figure. I thought since it had to detect the key fob more electronics to go wrong vs simple ignition.
Seems to me that a mechanical steering lock release would always be simpler and less trouble prone than an electronically actuated steering lock mechanism. Additionally the receiver and associated electronics would add unnecessary complexity... I'll still go for the tried and true KEY in the cylinder and release the steering lock and start the car...
 
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In most cases you can start and drive off with the keys on the roof or something like that and then you are screwed!!! We had this happen in the Nevada Desert outside Las Vegas after a SEMA photo shoot and the Lexus show car had to be left parked overnight in an In-N-Out parking lot then towed to the dealer and it took a week to get a working key for it.
Just for fun, I tried this in my car that has this feature, and it worked! I thought the cars with this feature were supposed to be smart enough to know when the key is in the car.
 
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Just for fun, I tried this in my car that has this feature, and it worked! I thought the cars with this feature were supposed to be smart enough to know when the key is in the car.
My daughter has a 1.6T hatchback with the push button start and she has been fine with only one driver. On the other hand my son and daughter in law have a Nissan X Trail with the keyless start and on 2 occasions so far I have had to go to their house and get the keys as my son used his (in his pocket) to drive to the train station. That was fine, the wife with 2 kids in the car then stopped at the shops on the way home and were stranded. Fortunately I have spare keys to their house and don't live too far away and got them out of trouble. I am happy to have old technology in my car.
 

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There have been well publicized cases where people have failed to turn their car OFF with the push button and later died from CO piosoning in their homes. In fact Chicago just gas one a few months back. Why is it so hard to turn a key???
 
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Just for fun, I tried this in my car that has this feature, and it worked! I thought the cars with this feature were supposed to be smart enough to know when the key is in the car.
Most newer ones will not start unless the key is in the car. The 16 Malibu we had was that way. Wouldn't even start if the key was next to the door on the outside.

Seems to me that a mechanical steering lock release would always be simpler and less trouble prone than an electronically actuated steering lock mechanism. Additionally the receiver and associated electronics would add unnecessary complexity... I'll still go for the tried and true KEY in the cylinder and release the steering lock and start the car...
Packaging the push-button start versus a keyed igntion module is far more difficult as the later is far bigger. My wife does advanced vehicle packaging - and has directly dealt with exactly that.

She much prefers push button start in that situation alone - along with the convenience of not having to dig through her purse for a key. Passive entry and push-button start mean you can just leave it wherever and go.
 
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