[spacedout]

There have been well publicized cases where people have failed to turn their car OFF with the push button and later died from CO piosoning in their homes. In fact Chicago just gas one a few months back. Why is it so hard to turn a key???

GM recalled the Chevy Volt a year+ ago to solve this issue, if your car sits not moving but on for more than 90 minutes it turns itself off. This is really only a problem if you can't hear the engine or read the gauges to see the engine is still on. In the case of the volt the gas motor could start to charge the battery if left on once the battery was low(even days later), so the 90 minute thing should solve the problem.

Reality is though if you are driving and not making sure your car is actually off when you park it inside its your own **** fault if you die from the exhaust gasses. Isn't this how evolution works? Only the smart survive.

I also think in a few years push button start will be standard on all cars, eliminates any user caused ignition issues, like using too heavy of keys(cobalt anyone?). I see 2017 GM added push button start to the Sonic LTZ as well as the 2LT 2016+ Spark. Sorry to say but all the expensive GM cars with keyed ignitions feel cheap when I can get push button start standard on entry level cars with other brands. So much more convenient and increases my safety when I walk to my car with an arm load of grocery's not to have to waste timing fumbling to dig out a key from my pocket.

 

[MP81]

Sorry to say but all the expensive GM cars with keyed ignitions feel cheap when I can get push button start standard on entry level cars with other brands. So much more convenient and increases my safety when I walk to my car with an arm load of grocery's not to have to waste timing fumbling to dig out a key from my pocket.

I think when I got out of the 16 Malibu and back into our CTD, I may have actually said "What is this ****?" when I no longer had push-button start, haha.

 

[spacedout]

Hopefully GM will see fit to add push button start at least as an option on the all new 2017 diesel cruze.

 

[pandrad61]

Hopefully GM will see fit to add push button start at least as an option on the all new 2017 diesel cruze.

i dont want it standard id just like the option of it

 

[outdoorjr]

Funny thing that when I rented a car that have start/stop button and I put the key in my pocket. When I dropped off the rental car at airport and walked away, the rental guy had to run to catch me, that maybe a two football fields away. Oh boy, key is still in my pocket. Oops, i gave it to him. I had to remind my myself that have to leave key in car when drop off at rental. Can not image if the key still with me when i enter into plane. The car may be stuck in the middle of row with other cars.

 

[diesel]

Most newer ones will not start unless the key is in the car. The 16 Malibu we had was that way. Wouldn't even start if the key was next to the door on the outside..

Next time you're around one, try with the key sitting on the roof. I'll bet it will start.

 

[Chris Tobin]

Most newer ones will not start unless the key is in the car. The 16 Malibu we had was that way. Wouldn't even start if the key was next to the door on the outside.



Packaging the push-button start versus a keyed igntion module is far more difficult as the later is far bigger. My wife does advanced vehicle packaging - and has directly dealt with exactly that.

She much prefers push button start in that situation alone - along with the convenience of not having to dig through her purse for a key. Passive entry and push-button start mean you can just leave it wherever and go.

Okay so it may take up less physical space, but it is still more complex than the old school tried and true mechanical design, and the above mentioned concerns and problems with the push button systems are still very worrysome. There have been deaths attributed to it... how hard is it to turn a key??? I don't want to PAY for the privilege of pressing a button vs turning a key!!!

 

[boraz]

Okay so it may take up less physical space, but it is still more complex than the old school tried and true mechanical design, and the above mentioned concerns and problems with the push button systems are still very worrysome. There have been deaths attributed to it... how hard is it to turn a key??? I don't want to PAY for the privilege of pressing a button vs turning a key!!!

yeah, good thing theres been no deaths from keyed ignitions

oh wait

 

[Chris Tobin]

yeah, good thing theres been no deaths from keyed ignitions

oh wait

Not from forgetting to turn off the key!!!

 

[Merc6]

The CTD is a 2LT with a Diesel powertrain. There are a few feature comforts in the LTZ that the 2LT doesn't have. The trim levels are

LTZ (2011-2016 Limited)
CTD (2014-2015)
2LT (2011-2016 Limited)
ECO (2011-2016 Limited)
1LT (2011-2016 Limited)
LS (2011-2016 Limited)
L (2016 Limited only)

The L, LS, 1LT, and ECO all have a manual option for their full production periods. The 2LT has a manual option for 2011-2014.

For the USA market. They let them keep a manual in Canada for 15-16.

I somewhat remember hearing it was a 2LT now that it is mentioned.

That said - push-button start was optional on a 2LT.

Yes, Canada only.....

visual package , but on the cruze i think for a few years it put in the z link suspension

yeah Z link in the 11-12 was all but the eco 6MT. This RS package gave the 1LT RS the Z link that is now only 2LT and LTZ standard.

I don't think the RS added Z-link - it was appearance only. It'd only have Z-link because the trim level had it already.

Diesel = 2LT = Z link standard for trim level.

GM recalled the Chevy Volt a year+ ago to solve this issue, if your car sits not moving but on for more than 90 minutes it turns itself off. This is really only a problem if you can't hear the engine or read the gauges to see the engine is still on. In the case of the volt the gas motor could start to charge the battery if left on once the battery was low(even days later), so the 90 minute thing should solve the problem.

Reality is though if you are driving and not making sure your car is actually off when you park it inside its your own **** fault if you die from the exhaust gasses. Isn't this how evolution works? Only the smart survive.

I also think in a few years push button start will be standard on all cars, eliminates any user caused ignition issues, like using too heavy of keys(cobalt anyone?). I see 2017 GM added push button start to the Sonic LTZ as well as the 2LT 2016+ Spark. Sorry to say but all the expensive GM cars with keyed ignitions feel cheap when I can get push button start standard on entry level cars with other brands. So much more convenient and increases my safety when I walk to my car with an arm load of grocery's not to have to waste timing fumbling to dig out a key from my pocket.

Yes you shouldn't be able to spend $70K on a Acadia Denali and $80K on an Escalade Platinum to still have a 1999 turn key & separate fob while a $29K Cruze has it packaged in a flip key form.

 

[anthonysmith93]

Diesel should have been an option, not a trim level, and if not an option, it should have been a separate car, like some other manufacturers do. Cruze Diesel LT, 2LT, or LTZ. SO it could have all the fixins (or lack thereof) of a gasser Cruze.

 

[Merc6]

Diesel should have been an option, not a trim level, and if not an option, it should have been a separate car, like some other manufacturers do. Cruze Diesel LT, 2LT, or LTZ. SO it could have all the fixins (or lack thereof) of a gasser Cruze.

Hopefully they do that where it can float the trims like RS does. The way 93 prices are, Diesel ends up being cheaper even if I tuned and ran it hard.

 

[diesel]

Diesel should have been an option, not a trim level, and if not an option, it should have been a separate car, like some other manufacturers do. Cruze Diesel LT, 2LT, or LTZ. SO it could have all the fixins (or lack thereof) of a gasser Cruze.

That method worked for VW, and GM is going after the TDI crowd now. We will see what they do on the new one.