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158,799 mi on 2014 Cruze Diesel. CEL was on, but car was still running fine. Wife took car on out of state trip 800 mi. RT, ran great. Stopped about 40 miles from home to fill up diesel. Got about 5 miles down road and started to run rough and reduced power mode. Got on side of road and went into Limp Mode. Had to send roll back to bring it home. Now it says DPF full, Reduced Power. It looks like going to have to remove the DPF Have mechanical skills with tools, no scangauge 2 though; but not a mechanic. Is it very difficult to remove DPF? Was thinking along lines of sending it to DPF Cleaning to have filter and SCR cleaned thoroughly and put it back in. $600 vs ?1500 dealer dpf.
Does anyone have info on diy removal of dpf and good photo or description of where it is and ease of removal? Think it is connected direct to turbo if I am looking at right thing. Only see three flange bolts from my view from bottom, but can't see what else I have to get to in order to get it out
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If the DPF is full, just take it to the Chevy dealer and they can do a manual regen and it is about $250 and you will be back on the road again.
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158,799 mi on 2014 Cruze Diesel. CEL was on, but car was still running fine. Wife took car on out of state trip 800 mi. RT, ran great. Stopped about 40 miles from home to fill up diesel. Got about 5 miles down road and started to run rough and reduced power mode. Got on side of road and went into Limp Mode. Had to send roll back to bring it home. Now it says DPF full, Reduced Power. It looks like going to have to remove the DPF Have mechanical skills with tools, no scangauge 2 though; but not a mechanic. Is it very difficult to remove DPF? Was thinking along lines of sending it to DPF Cleaning to have filter and SCR cleaned thoroughly and put it back in. $600 vs ?1500 dealer dpf.
Does anyone have info on diy removal of dpf and good photo or description of where it is and ease of removal? Think it is connected direct to turbo if I am looking at right thing. Only see three flange bolts from my view from bottom, but can't see what else I have to get to in order to get it out
Did she by chance misfuel the car? Sounds very suspicious that it started right after refueling. Remember not all stations use GREEN handles for Diesel, some use GREEN handles for Gasoline. If she was at an unfamiliar station and tired from a long road trip drive it would have been easy to misfuel and that sounds fairly likely in this scenario.

Rough running within miles of the refuel aligns with a misfuel as well...

I would consider testing the fuel... Possibly even a simple sniff test by removing the fuel cap and seeing if it smells like gas or diesel... Fortunately the HPFP on our Cruze's is much more robust than the one used on the VW TDIs and you might be able to get away with simply draining the gas and flushing the fuel system, changing the filter and refueling with no other damage...

Definitely worth looking into before you pay someone else to diagnose it.
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Ok, will try that first. Most of my driving is highway, high speed. Should be doing regen pretty regularly. May have got bad diesel that clogged it up so fast.
If she put in diesel fuel, which she probably did assuming she put some of the 158k miles on. I would think without a scanguage, the car was in pregen status and she didn't know and shut the car off, the DPF was filling with diesel fuel, she completes the filling the car with diesel and goes on her way, and then the DPF is full and not working properly and shuts her down to limp mode, which means it needs a manual regen by the dealer. That's my theory.
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this 200.00 regen is serious BS. Takes a tech 5 mins to do it they just let the car regen while they are doing other jobs.
I vote for questionable fuel/diesel. There is no way to clean the DPF off board.
this 200.00 regen is serious BS. Takes a tech 5 mins to do it they just let the car regen while they are doing other jobs.
I wonder how much the machine costs to induce the manual regen?

How much for the garage space costs.

How many people are involved in getting your car in and out: service writer, car jockey, tower, technician, cashier, etc.

How much for the lounge you wait in, the free coffee or the lift there and back.

Then all the hidden costs like property and payroll taxes, wear and tear, software liscensing fees, etc.

I agree that $200 is a lot to charge for a manual regen - but it's not like the dealer is making $199 profit either.
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Cruze15 not that im picking on you but if you dont know what your talking about cut the **** that 5 minutes it "takes" costs money i have the ability to do it because the scanner cost me 2500.00 plus my 10k plus in snapon tools so im sorry if i paid my way to be a professional and you think your "entitled" to think it should cost 20.00 to do it because its just a push of a button. RANT OVER
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Cruze15 not that im picking on you but if you dont know what your talking about cut the **** that 5 minutes it "takes" costs money i have the ability to do it because the scanner cost me 2500.00 plus my 10k plus in snapon tools so im sorry if i paid my way to be a professional and you think your "entitled" to think it should cost 20.00 to do it because its just a push of a button. RANT OVER

Shop time is about 10.00 or less so ya Im sticking to my guns!!! Its really truly a cash grab. 2.50 dollars Tech time so [email protected]!!
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Cruz15, I run a very small professional business, there are lots of cost the average person doesn't see, at $200 to $250 to do a manual regen is a lot of money but worth it and semi reasonable. When as a business owner I see the dealership cost it is nothing short of amazing. Plus things can change, here in Indy we had a major dealership expand right before the Great Recession, he went into debt big time to modernize the ford dealership, car sales went in the toilet and he was going to loose it and he committed suicide so his family would be ok with life insurance. So $200-250 to get your car back on the road sounds reasonable to me.
Depending on how you look at it, the real issue is the system allowing itself to get into this state or GM's failure to provide a manual regen.
Depending on how you look at it, the real issue is the system allowing itself to get into this state or GM's failure to provide a manual regen.
I agree with you, seems like a design flaw that this can happen, it shouldn't.
Cruz15, I run a very small professional business, there are lots of cost the average person doesn't see, at $200 to $250 to do a manual regen is a lot of money but worth it and semi reasonable. When as a business owner I see the dealership cost it is nothing short of amazing. Plus things can change, here in Indy we had a major dealership expand right before the Great Recession, he went into debt big time to modernize the ford dealership, car sales went in the toilet and he was going to loose it and he committed suicide so his family would be ok with life insurance. So $200-250 to get your car back on the road sounds reasonable to me.
Rich Folk think this way, that 200 - 250 is cheap. The regen should be be an in menu car item and not have to go to the dealership.
You guys think we all have endless funds to do crap like this seriously?
Rich Folk think this way, that 200 - 250 is cheap. The regen should be be an in menu car item and not have to go to the dealership.
You guys think we all have endless funds to do crap like this seriously?
Hey I just look from a realistic perspective, I did research here before I bought a CTD, I am fully aware of how the car works and potential problems, I don't like the possibility of a manual regen anymore than you do, and I would prefer this not be an issue either, but the world we both live in there is a possibility of needing a manual regen. Just because I referenced the cost as semi reasonable doesn't mean I want to spend 250 on a manual regen, but if it happens you can not drive the car unless you do a delete which cost a **** of a lot more than 250
All of this hassle because GM for some unknown reason left out the region warning light that I have in my 2012 Holden Cruze diesel, so stupid of them.
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I agree that's it's gms fault for leaving the light output and the manual regan option out
GM designed the system for the American market. Thats why there is no option for manual regen, no lights, and no notice. The car was designed to please us Americans, who already had bad stigmas about diesels. The car is designed to take care of itself with out any intervention. If it isn't, there is usually some sort of other issue at hand. If you car is not letting you know there is an issue, there probably isn't one.
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