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So I was just thinking out of curiosity since our motors are Ecotecs is it possible to swap the 2.0 LNF motor into our cars from the turbocharged cobalt SS? Or no?

Also if it's not possible how come no one really touches the Cruze turbo but I see that people are more keen to to modify the Sonic. They both have the same motor and turbo. The point I'm getting at is could swap the LNF in or not, because that determines which route I shall take in the fall.



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If you want to do an LNF swap. Just buy a Verano and call it done. Not worth the hassle to actually try to swap the engine.
The sonic is a lighter and cheaper car and so it has a bigger enthusiast market.
I choose a Cruze eco because it is almost as light, has a way better gauge package, gets better mileage, has more room, and is easier to work on IMO.
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It would be super cool if you got a 2.0T from a Verano and put in a Cruze.
 

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Just be wise and use your Cruze as a daily and get a garage queen to race or build. Way less stress. I learned that the hard way when I was younger lol!
 
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I have a Supra. I just want my Cruze to be a little quicker and handle a little better


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So I was just thinking out of curiosity since our motors are Ecotecs is it possible to swap the 2.0 LNF motor into our cars from the turbocharged cobalt SS? Or no?

Also if it's not possible how come no one really touches the Cruze turbo but I see that people are more keen to to modify the Sonic. They both have the same motor and turbo. The point I'm getting at is could swap the LNF in or not, because that determines which route I shall take in the fall.



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I run the Sonic forum. If you have any questions about what you see over there, feel free to reach out.
 

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Just be wise and use your Cruze as a daily and get a garage queen to race or build. Way less stress. I learned that the hard way when I was younger lol!
The Cruze is my second daily, I bounce from an 07 mazda 6s to the Cruze as dailys or beaters, my garage queen is my mustang, but she's done so it's on to the next.


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I run the Sonic forum. If you have any questions about what you see over there, feel free to reach out.
Well one question I have in particular is, has anyone ever ported the heads and got cams made? If not I think I wanna be the front runner because I feel the 1.4 has great potential just like people didn't want to touch the Chevy cobalt ss


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Well one question I have in particular is, has anyone ever ported the heads and got cams made? If not I think I wanna be the front runner because I feel the 1.4 has great potential just like people didn't want to touch the Chevy cobalt ss


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It's not a matter of potential or people not wanting to do it; I tried to get cam work done when I had my Sonic. Nobody wanted to do it because of the VVT passages.

If you can send out your stock cams for a regrind, then I know a guy to get a hold of.
 

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It's not a matter of potential or people not wanting to do it; I tried to get cam work done when I had my Sonic. Nobody wanted to do it because of the VVT passages.

If you can send out your stock cams for a regrind, then I know a guy to get a hold of.
Alright cool, I think we should meet up and get some plans running because it's time these little engines get some love. And do you know anyone selling a down pipe for the Cruze besides zzp?


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IMO get a basic tune & strut braces front & rear & lower rear too you will be happier than stock. It not only handles better corning it helps on the highway when it's windy too. I cant wait till I wear out my front brakes & do the GM big brakes from the encore/traxs
 

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Alright cool, I think we should meet up and get some plans running because it's time these little engines get some love. And do you know anyone selling a down pipe for the Cruze besides zzp?


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Alright cool, I think we should meet up and get some plans running because it's time these little engines get some love. And do you know anyone selling a down pipe for the Cruze besides zzp?


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Get the BNR downpipe as it is 300 series stainless. ZZP uses 200 series stainless which will heavily discolor with time and hear. 300 series holds up to the temperature impacts better.
 

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So I was just thinking out of curiosity since our motors are Ecotecs is it possible to swap the 2.0 LNF motor into our cars from the turbocharged cobalt SS? Or no?
The fun part is going to be making all the computers happy. I think this is largely unexplored because of this issue.
 

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I believe WEB Cam will do cams. We get lots of people asking these same questions--then they find out how much it costs and then nothing . You can get an SS Cobalt turbo going WAY BETTER, or a GTI vw lots of parts out there. About $3000 gets you big turbo, but you still need forged pistons, and valve springs thats another $1000. Just saying. g
 

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I believe WEB Cam will do cams. We get lots of people asking these same questions--then they find out how much it costs and then nothing . You can get an SS Cobalt turbo going WAY BETTER, or a GTI vw lots of parts out there. About $3000 gets you big turbo, but you still need forged pistons, and valve springs thats another $1000. Just saying. g
The only difference between me and them is that I know the car scene is "Pay to play" I was 3k in heads alone for my mustang so the price isn't an issue for me because I know custom work costs more.


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I believe WEB Cam will do cams. We get lots of people asking these same questions--then they find out how much it costs and then nothing . You can get an SS Cobalt turbo going WAY BETTER, or a GTI vw lots of parts out there. About $3000 gets you big turbo, but you still need forged pistons, and valve springs thats another $1000. Just saying. g
Plus I also have a turbo that's bigger than the bnr turbo and the Vermonttuning turbo so I don't need another turbo. Just need springs and valves, pistons, cams, and fab my turbo on with a custom tune


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Engine swapping was a great passtime, but this was way before the EPA and DOT, and insurance companies didn't give a darn.

Key vehicles would be a 48 Ford, Chevy, or Plymouth coupe, could pick these up for around 50 or less bucks with a very clean body that needed an overhaul, could unbolt everything forward from the firewall forward to see the bare frame, don't try this with a unibody. Low mileage V-8's can be had for around 60 bucks, Warshawsky had adapter plates and bolt on motor mounts.

Actually preferred a hydramatic, were bullet proof, 4 speeds, and with a torque converter, an extra 3X gear down multiplication for more rapid start. Could get brakes and suspension from larger vehicles of the same make for a buck a bushel basket full.

Wiring? About a half a dozen or so, didn't have to be an electronic genius. For a couple hundred bucks could leave spoil brat rich kids far in your dust. Called these sleepers back then.

New stuff? Have to get the entire wire harness out of the donor vehicle, very first part installed, would have to remove just about anything in your vehicle to replace it, plus all the electronics, slightly more than a half a dozen wires. You won't find any adapter plates nor motor mount kits.

Could get a cam regrind with a fixed cam, to extend the intake valve cycle, would idle kind of rough, but this was cool, 3/4 was a enough. But all this new stuff has variable valve timing, grind these cams, will be going backwards and much slower, it it moves at all. For one thing, will screw up the EGR, if it does run, your engine will be toast.

And make darn sure if you go through all this work, notify both the EPA and your insurance company, or may be in really deep trouble. Function of congress is to make laws, not only in automotive, but just about in anything else, really got carried away in the last 50 or so years.

Ha, was with GEICO for years, when I told them I purchase a Supra Turbo, that was the end of it. Telling them, don't you know a turbo gives far superior fuel economy? That sure doesn't work, had to find a different insurance company. Let's not talk about insurance premiums.

Ha, they didn't care when I told them my 1.4L had a turbo.
 

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Engine swapping was a great passtime, but this was way before the EPA and DOT, and insurance companies didn't give a darn.

Key vehicles would be a 48 Ford, Chevy, or Plymouth coupe, could pick these up for around 50 or less bucks with a very clean body that needed an overhaul, could unbolt everything forward from the firewall forward to see the bare frame, don't try this with a unibody. Low mileage V-8's can be had for around 60 bucks, Warshawsky had adapter plates and bolt on motor mounts.

Actually preferred a hydramatic, were bullet proof, 4 speeds, and with a torque converter, an extra 3X gear down multiplication for more rapid start. Could get brakes and suspension from larger vehicles of the same make for a buck a bushel basket full.

Wiring? About a half a dozen or so, didn't have to be an electronic genius. For a couple hundred bucks could leave spoil brat rich kids far in your dust. Called these sleepers back then.

New stuff? Have to get the entire wire harness out of the donor vehicle, very first part installed, would have to remove just about anything in your vehicle to replace it, plus all the electronics, slightly more than a half a dozen wires. You won't find any adapter plates nor motor mount kits.

Could get a cam regrind with a fixed cam, to extend the intake valve cycle, would idle kind of rough, but this was cool, 3/4 was a enough. But all this new stuff has variable valve timing, grind these cams, will be going backwards and much slower, it it moves at all. For one thing, will screw up the EGR, if it does run, your engine will be toast.

And make darn sure if you go through all this work, notify both the EPA and your insurance company, or may be in really deep trouble. Function of congress is to make laws, not only in automotive, but just about in anything else, really got carried away in the last 50 or so years.

Ha, was with GEICO for years, when I told them I purchase a Supra Turbo, that was the end of it. Telling them, don't you know a turbo gives far superior fuel economy? That sure doesn't work, had to find a different insurance company. Let's not talk about insurance premiums.

Ha, they didn't care when I told them my 1.4L had a turbo.
Yea see I don't have those issues in Michigan and donor cars are dirt cheap I was simply asking if it's been done before. Wiring, VVT, EGR deletes, that's all easy for me to do myself or have someone else do it.


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