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Bought a used '14 cruze TD yesterday. 27,xxx miles. Good shape. Drove it about 100 miles yesterday. Fired it up today and CEL is on. Called dealership to report issue (75 miles to that dealership). Took to local dealership. NOX#2 sensor needs to be replaced. Awesome. Glad it's covered under B2B warranty.

Have now read about a fuel trim software update and MULTIPLE sensor issues. Hope this wasn't a bad move.
 

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Bought a used '14 cruze TD yesterday. 27,xxx miles. Good shape. Drove it about 100 miles yesterday. Fired it up today and CEL is on. Called dealership to report issue (75 miles to that dealership). Took to local dealership. NOX#2 sensor needs to be replaced. Awesome. Glad it's covered under B2B warranty.

Have now read about a fuel trim software update and MULTIPLE sensor issues. Hope this wasn't a bad move.
There's been a few users on here that have had sensors replaced. I believe the one you mentioned is part of a recall and the new sensor is better equipped to handle its environment and the reprogram helps too. Once the sensor(s) is/are replaced then there shouldn't be any future problems from them. I personally haven't had any issues yet with mine. I'm at 32,000km.
 

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Let me know what the ecm update number is or please post the repair invoice it could help some of us
 

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Let me know what the ecm update number is or please post the repair invoice it could help some of us
Will do.

Dealership that sold me the car is offering to take it back. They'd had it since March. Strongly considering accepting their kind offer.
 

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If you are not prepared to have the occasional emissions system issue, I would let them take it back. You may not have any more issues with the car, but if you want to guarantee no more issues, let them have it.
 

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Don't take it back because of a small issue that is being covered under warranty. Let them fix it and drive the **** out of it. Mine had that same sensor replaced and yeah it is aggravating but you'll be glad you kept it when you're getting 55mpg on the highway.

Worst case scenario. It goes out of warranty and you have another emissions system problem. Just get the emissions delete setup and do away with the entire emissions system and any of the headaches that come with it.
 

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Most of us love our diesels. My only issue is its not a half ton truck.
 
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It is intended to be my daily commuter. 40 miles each way, 5 days per week. 90% of that is 2 lane highway. I agree with your assessment of gas vs diesel and is the reason I sought out a TD. I have an Outback with winter tires for snow days on un- or partially plowed roads (I'll leave at about 0530) and would anticipate mounting winter tires to the Cruze as well.
 

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Will do.

Dealership that sold me the car is offering to take it back. They'd had it since March. Strongly considering accepting their kind offer.
I have 183K miles on my diesel Cruze and it's been amazingly reliable. The only sensor I needed to have replaced is EGT#3. Some do have more issues than others, but once they are sorted out, they are good cars. There are several people on the board with high miles and few problems. That being said, look at the complete service history of yours. If it has a history of issues, you may want to find a better one. If it's just that one issue, chances are you will have minimal trouble.
 

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It goes out of warranty and you have another emissions system problem. Just get the emissions delete setup and do away with the entire emissions system and any of the headaches that come with it.
I don't think this is good advise. A delete costs minimum $1500, and causes the car to pollute more. I have total out of pocket under $500 in emissions related issues in 183K miles on mine. I would have to drive 600K+ miles to MAYBE get payback for a delete.
 
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I don't think this is good advise. A delete costs minimum $1500, and causes the car to pollute more. I have total out of pocket under $500 in emissions related issues in 183K miles on mine. I would have to drive 600K+ miles to MAYBE get payback for a delete.
thats crazy math.

there's no way you can objectively base the cost of future repairs on previous repairs, let alone at the same cpm
 

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thats crazy math.

there's no way you can objectively base the cost of future repairs on previous repairs, let alone at the same cpm
Maybe so. But it's all I have to go on. Either way it's a crap shoot. Pay me now or pay me later? Who knows?
 

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I don't think this is good advise. A delete costs minimum $1500, and causes the car to pollute more. I have total out of pocket under $500 in emissions related issues in 183K miles on mine. I would have to drive 600K+ miles to MAYBE get payback for a delete.
If I keep my CTD for 183k miles and only spend a few hundred on emissions I will be happy. If I have chronic problems and it gets expensive, as much as I don't like it I may consider the delete. The engine and transmission seem super reliable, the emissions when working properly seem good, when not it sounds like it can be a nightmare, the idea of limiting my speed to limp mode just isn't very appealing to be completely honest.

it would be possible to spend a lot of emission sensors and still go into limp mode after.
 

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If I keep my CTD for 183k miles and only spend a few hundred on emissions I will be happy. If I have chronic problems and it gets expensive, as much as I don't like it I may consider the delete. The engine and transmission seem super reliable, the emissions when working properly seem good, when not it sounds like it can be a nightmare, the idea of limiting my speed to limp mode just isn't very appealing to be completely honest.

it would be possible to spend a lot of emission sensors and still go into limp mode after.
We've all seen how GM has been changing part numbers for sensors and other components of our emissions package. So I think that stands as evidence that they are working to address some of the issues that have been cropping up for some owners. Plus at least some members received an advance recall notice indicating that emissions parts and software are in development.

What I'm concluding on that is that we've not been abandoned by GM and hopefully the quirks of the emissions package will be smoothed out.
 
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We've all seen how GM has been changing part numbers for sensors and other components of our emissions package. So I think that stands as evidence that they are working to address some of the issues that have been cropping up for some owners. Plus at least some members received an advance recall notice indicating that emissions parts and software are in development.

What I'm concluding on that is that we've not been abandoned by GM and hopefully the quirks of the emissions package will be smoothed out.
I hope you are correct. Nothing I can do about it but take care of my car which I always do anyways. My main disappointment with GM is they are not covering this complicated system under warranty long enough, that just seems wrong.
 
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