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Gen 1 Tuning Comparision Thread
I have been seeing a lot of questions lately among members about the various tuning options available for the Cruze. I'm creating this thread to aid those who are trying to make the decision of whether or not to tune their Cruze AND if they decide to tune it, which option they want to go with. If you wish to post in this thread, please only post about YOUR OWN experience with a particular tuning service or personal tuning experience.
In your post, please include the following information:
Vehicle Year, Make, Model, Trim
Engine Size with RPO code (if you know it)
Transmission Type (automatic/manual)
Vehicle Modifications (if any)
Name of Tuner/Tuning Software
Review of YOUR OWN experience with the Tuner/Tuning Software
Cost for Tuning
Dyno Sheet (If you have one) OR Screenshot of power numbers
I hope this thread is helpful.
In your post, please include the following information:
Vehicle Year, Make, Model, Trim
Engine Size with RPO code (if you know it)
Transmission Type (automatic/manual)
Vehicle Modifications (if any)
Name of Tuner/Tuning Software
Review of YOUR OWN experience with the Tuner/Tuning Software
Cost for Tuning
Dyno Sheet (If you have one) OR Screenshot of power numbers
I hope this thread is helpful.
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So looking at getting the ZZP BWv3 turbo. Thoughts on a ZZP tune vs BNR tune please. I'm BNR tuned atm but not sure if they'll deliver with the ZZP BWv3. BNR said I'll need the FPCM for more fuel pressure with the 42# injectors, ZZP don't need this mod to tune it. Also BNR said that they won't tune past 19 PSI because ZZP won't honour any warranty over 19 PSI and I have to agree to BNR not being liable in any damage over 19 PSI. ZZP said this isn't true and they had honoured every warranty to date (a few months ago). So yeah, not sure on how to proceed with tuning...
Oh really? @Thebigzeus might find this interesting.So looking at getting the ZZP BWv3 turbo. Thoughts on a ZZP tune vs BNR tune please. I'm BNR tuned atm but not sure if they'll deliver with the ZZP BWv3. BNR said I'll need the FPCM for more fuel pressure with the 42# injectors, ZZP don't need this mod to tune it. Also BNR said that they won't tune past 19 PSI because ZZP won't honour any warranty over 19 PSI and I have to agree to BNR not being liable in any damage over 19 PSI. ZZP said this isn't true and they had honoured every warranty to date (a few months ago). So yeah, not sure on how to proceed with tuning...
As for warranties and customer service go, ZZP is top notch from my experiences. BNR probably just wants you to buy their products. Which is understandable, they are a business. Especially since apparently they don't charge for additional tuning or so I'm told.
My tuner charged me $350 to re-tune for my build.
That sounds weird considering I run their 20psi tune on a stock turbo.
Yeah they were selling their turbo over ZZP, but I couldn't find all the results that apparently show all the HP advantages...Oh really? @Thebigzeus might find this interesting.
As for warranties and customer service go, ZZP is top notch from my experiences. BNR probably just wants you to buy their products. Which is understandable, they are a business. Especially since apparently they don't charge for additional tuning or so I'm told.
My tuner charged me $350 to re-tune for my build.
I'm currently running 22-23ish PSI on the stock turbo too...
I would really like to stay with BNR for tuning, just uncertain given the circumstances. I want more than 19 PSI, lol...
i'm tuned with BNR, have the ZZP V3 turbo and tuned to 23-24 PSI. that said, i also have 60 LBS injectors (from BNR) it runs really rich at full throttle.
it could be just me, but i have had nothing but good service from BNR.
it could be just me, but i have had nothing but good service from BNR.
My 42# injectors are running about 60%, should be enough for much more power. I mean it's fair to buy a bit of product to contribute to the re-tune, but if I have to buy a FPCM to make it happen then so be it. If I can trust in the BNR re-tune then that'll be the best option. Need more than 19 PSI though, lol...
Did you have to specify going over 19 PSI or not?i'm tuned with BNR, have the ZZP V3 turbo and tuned to 23-24 PSI. that said, i also have 60 LBS injectors (from BNR) it runs really rich at full throttle.
it could be just me, but i have had nothing but good service from BNR.
i never specified. i just sent logs and asked if there is room for more to bump it up a bit.
How did you find the change to the ZZP BWv3?i never specified. i just sent logs and asked if there is room for more to bump it up a bit.
its hard for me to compare, i'd say it is comparable to going from stock to tuned all over again.
it took a couple summers for me to get where the car is at now. if you drive a 2011, to go to higher than 19PSI boost you'll need to update you Map sensor.
Really? I haven't heard that before...it took a couple summers for me to get where the car is at now. if you drive a 2011, to go to higher than 19PSI boost you'll need to update you Map sensor.
yup, i kept getting over boost all the time and BNR had me put in a different one, no issues since. mind you i was trying to get 22-23 PSI a the time.
Tim at ZZP did a great job on my 16 Limited. We went back and forth seven times before he was 100% happy with the tune.
It was so weak when I bought it. With my scangauge I never saw more than 13PSI. Now I've seen 20. The car was just plain lackluster, It's now actually fun to drive.
I added their Downpipe at the same time as the tune. I did one step colder plugs, AEM cold air and Magnaflow muffler prior to tune and ZZP mid-pipe afterwards.
The trans shifts so much quicker all the time, not just when driving hard. It will now bark the tires when it hits 2nd gear when you are really in the gas pedal.
I just got 35MPG average on a 1800mile trip (No A\C). I try and use ethanol free 91 when I can, which is found at Caseys in the midwest. Most of this trip was 65-75 MPG. I'll get over 40 if running 60-65 which we do in Rural WI where speed limits are 55 thru the hills, trees and around all the lake communities.
On our trips across Kansas to Colorado at 80MPG I get 32MPG, 30 if AC is on.
In the Flint Hills of KS and the Mountains of CO, this car never loses more than 1MPH going up steep grades, and thats without it downshifting. Boost is a wonderful thing
It was so weak when I bought it. With my scangauge I never saw more than 13PSI. Now I've seen 20. The car was just plain lackluster, It's now actually fun to drive.
I added their Downpipe at the same time as the tune. I did one step colder plugs, AEM cold air and Magnaflow muffler prior to tune and ZZP mid-pipe afterwards.
The trans shifts so much quicker all the time, not just when driving hard. It will now bark the tires when it hits 2nd gear when you are really in the gas pedal.
I just got 35MPG average on a 1800mile trip (No A\C). I try and use ethanol free 91 when I can, which is found at Caseys in the midwest. Most of this trip was 65-75 MPG. I'll get over 40 if running 60-65 which we do in Rural WI where speed limits are 55 thru the hills, trees and around all the lake communities.
On our trips across Kansas to Colorado at 80MPG I get 32MPG, 30 if AC is on.
In the Flint Hills of KS and the Mountains of CO, this car never loses more than 1MPH going up steep grades, and thats without it downshifting. Boost is a wonderful thing
This is the 1st ZZP tuning review we've had. Would you allow me to reformat it?Tim at ZZP did a great job on my 16 Limited. We went back and forth seven times before he was 100% happy with the tune.
It was so weak when I bought it. With my scangauge I never saw more than 13PSI. Now I've seen 20. The car was just plain lackluster, It's now actually fun to drive.
I added their Downpipe at the same time as the tune. I did one step colder plugs, AEM cold air and Magnaflow muffler prior to tune and ZZP mid-pipe afterwards.
The trans shifts so much quicker all the time, not just when driving hard. It will now bark the tires when it hits 2nd gear when you are really in the gas pedal.
I just got 35MPG average on a 1800mile trip (No A\C). I try and use ethanol free 91 when I can, which is found at Caseys in the midwest. Most of this trip was 65-75 MPG. I'll get over 40 if running 60-65 which we do in Rural WI where speed limits are 55 thru the hills, trees and around all the lake communities.
On our trips across Kansas to Colorado at 80MPG I get 32MPG, 30 if AC is on.
In the Flint Hills of KS and the Mountains of CO, this car never loses more than 1MPH going up steep grades, and thats without it downshifting. Boost is a wonderful thing
@Blasirl @jblackburn Can I move this further up in the thread with the other reviews?
Super moderator, you don’t need the other peasants approval…This is the 1st ZZP tuning review we've had. Would you allow me to reformat it?
@Blasirl @jblackburn Can I move this further up in the thread with the other reviews?
Honestly I don't know that you can unless you copy and paste it to one with an earlier timestamp.This is the 1st ZZP tuning review we've had. Would you allow me to reformat it?
@Blasirl @jblackburn Can I move this further up in the thread with the other reviews?
Do you want me editing your non-vulgar posts without permission?Super moderator, you don’t need the other peasants approval…
I guess I should have asked how to do it.
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