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I wondered if GM would add another plant for North America. Lordstown is running pretty much at capacity.
 

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First I read 19 bucks a day for workers, then 26 dollars per day, then close to the border with Mexico to reduce shipping charges.

Could reactive the Janesville, WI plant and put 3,000 employees back to work, but certainly not at around 20 bucks per day per employee.

See Obama is celebrating his affordable healthcare act, we are not, our high deductible and monthly premiums have skyrocketed. What good is it when these corporations move to foreign countries to earn more money for the stockholders, when they lay people off here that can't even afford to buy a vehicle?
 

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First I read 19 bucks a day for workers, then 26 dollars per day, then close to the border with Mexico to reduce shipping charges.

Could reactive the Janesville, WI plant and put 3,000 employees back to work, but certainly not at around 20 bucks per day per employee.

See Obama is celebrating his affordable healthcare act, we are not, our high deductible and monthly premiums have skyrocketed. What good is it when these corporations move to foreign countries to earn more money for the stockholders, when they lay people off here that can't even afford to buy a vehicle?
I think there should be laws put in place to keep companies in their countries. Volvo left halifax, Nova Scotia and pretty much crippled us.


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I think there should be laws put in place to keep companies in their countries. Volvo left halifax, Nova Scotia and pretty much crippled us.


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Use to have laws like this, Reagan started this, really accelerated by Clinton. Use to have anti-trust laws where one company could not buy a competitive company. If this law remained in effect, would be no super rich Bill Gates. Sony owns a good part of our communications industry? This was definitely a no-no. before Reagan.

Also have American companies moving their headquarters to some foreign countries that give a better tax break. Walgreens attempted to do so, but was very unpopular since the are making many bucks with Medicaid and Medicare. So instead, laying off people and changing their organization getting rid of overpaid store managers.

Ha, back in the 60's when GM and Exxon were buying up interurban railroads like crazy and tearing them down so they could sell more cars and gas, government hit them with a $5,000.00 fine. But still let them rip out these railroads, bet that 5,000 bucks really hurt them. This all led to an energy crisis augmented by the newly formed ERA, EPA, and OSHA.

Great country!
 

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Am I the only one that feels like North America is going to ****? What we need is a complete restructuring of the system.

Just this morning I saw on the news how we've just lost another company from halifax (bens bread) which employed 105 people. Pretty soon Atlantic Canada will be bankrupt from the looks of it. All because they don't force companies to stay here.


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I hope the quality is better, the current people building the cruze in Lordstown could do a better job at what they do. No reason doors are misaligned, screws not full screwed in or missing.

The number one reason companies leave a area is taxes period. If our politicians would learn to live within their means and quit raising taxes this would not be a big issue. However when they seem someone or company make more money they just want to raise taxes on them even though they are getting more because the person or company is making more money. They think they should take from those people. However that is not how the tax system is suppose to work. This why we need to keep voting new people in to slow and kill this taxing policy. Seems when we have politicians in a long time they get stupid.
 

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US also has the highest medical cost in the world that several years ago caused a huge migration to Canada. But around 11 years ago, a lot of this was moved to China.

Seen homes for sell in Detroit for one dollar, but they forgot to include the back property taxes.

I will be more than happy to work for 19 bucks a day, just reduce my property taxes to 38 buck a year. And give me free medical care.

Does anyone here have interest in the middle east? Those guys there during WW II were just sitting back enjoying the Axis and Allied powers killing each other. And killing each other.
 

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Lordstown seems to crank out plenty for the US...they're everywhere as rental cars and sitting on lots for months before they're sold. If anything, they make too many - they have had to shut down or scale back production at times.

I bet the Mexico plant is to ramp up production for other Cruzen around the world, since some other GM plants in Australia/Europe are going off-line. Being in Mexico, the parts chain shouldn't be as difficult to manage as overseas either.
 

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The number one reason companies leave a area is taxes period.
Taxes, labor laws, environmental laws - bottom line, the price of doing business. Everyone looks at business as a cash cow and sooner or later, they get tired of so many hands on their teats and go somewhere else.

I'm not sure what happened in this case. Maybe someone made them a better offer, but odds are they felt they were driven out.
 

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I remember reading that the 1.5L range extender in the new 2016 volt is also coming out of Mexico initially, and then out of Flint, MI if I recall correctly.

Early buyers of the 2016 may want to watch were components come from. This could be another reason to not buy the first model year, even if there is a lot of excitement.
 
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GM has announced that it will be having it's Mexico plant producing the new Cruze in addition to Lordstown and the existing plant in China for additional capacity.

General Motors Will Build Next-Gen Chevrolet Cruze In Mexico - The Truth About Cars
I believe there's also a Cruze assembly facility near St Petersburg, Russia (formerly called Leningrad Ленинград in the CCCP), but the plant's future doesn't look bright with GM recently announcing plans to retrench in that currently fiscally and politically unstable market.

BTW, I will not purchase any future Cruze Hecho en México.
 
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So Volvo should pack up and go back to Sweden then? Mexico is part of north america.
At the risk of sounding like a 20th Century anachronism and cultural Luddite, I'll go on the record saying:

NAFTA cannot be undone and I'm not proposing it should be, but I would prefer my cars to be manufactured in their home country. I've owned three Volvos in my lifetime: '67 122S; '71 144S; '75 242. Loved the 1967 and 1971, the 1975 not so much because of '70s-era performance-killing pollution controls. All three were 'Tillverkad i Sverige', Made in Sweden.
 

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Ha, actually the most reliable car Ford made in the 80's-90's was the Escort, made in Mexico, second was the Taurus with the Japanese engines.

Maybe with this shift to Mexico, many Americans will invade this country for jobs instead of the other way around. Maybe Obama will issue each one an AK-47 for self defense.

Maybe our news portrayal of Mexico isn't as bad as they say. Not one, but three of my wife's co-workers went back to Mexico. With our super high cost of property taxes, healthcare, daycare, they didn't have a dime left to live on. Ha, maybe all of us should move down to Mexico.
 

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So Volvo should pack up and go back to Sweden then?
In an ideal world, yes.

Don't think you'd hear any complaints from the Swedish government or by the working men and women in Göteborg if Volvo automobile manufacturing returning to its' native country. NAFTA didn't just siphon off American and Canadian jobs, it took away well-paying Swedish jobs, too.
 

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Ha,
Maybe with this shift to Mexico, many Americans will invade this country for jobs instead of the other way around. Maybe Obama will issue each one an AK-47 for self defense.

Maybe our news portrayal of Mexico isn't as bad as they say. Not one, but three of my wife's co-workers went back to Mexico. With our super high cost of property taxes, healthcare, daycare, they didn't have a dime left to live on. Ha, maybe all of us should move down to Mexico.
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I'm not dissing Mexico, on the contrary, but as you rightfully note the need to carry an AK-47 or similar firepower for self defence kind of takes the shine off things. IIRC, a large portion of Mitt Romney's extended family live in and are citizens of Mexico. They fled the USA to avoid persecution by the Feds because of their religious beliefs.
 

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My Pontiac Transport was made in Mexico. It was very reliable.
 
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