Mostly to the performance intake. A drop in isn't too expensive, but an intake is much more than I want to spend on an economy car.
K&N not recommended by chevy!
ive talked to chevy service department, he said they do not recommend k&n products because of the oil in it, i had one in 5 diff. vehicles and never had a problem. K&N says it will not hurt a chevy and stand behind there warranty policy. So my question is why does chevy seem so against K&N or any oil based filters, or air intake product. I also asked if they recommended air intake systems and they said they did but it was the ones made by GM , but they dont make anything for the cruze! So whats your thoughts?
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An intake can increase your fuel economy.
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I can't argue that. However, if I'm going to spend several hundred dollars on increasing my economy, I'll put that money toward a tune. The benefits of an intake whether it be power or economy just don't justify the price imo.
I honestly see the turbo breaking down before you would ever see external damage from the filter. I have used them for the past 15 years from turbo and supercharged cars with well over 100k to customers with 300k+...
Only thingI do is clean the maf and throttle body every 15k or so.
Outside of gm, auto manufacturers even sell k&n style air filters.
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Only thingI do is clean the maf and throttle body every 15k or so.
Outside of gm, auto manufacturers even sell k&n style air filters.
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Yup, exactly why I bought mine. I'm seeing a 3-4mpg increase with my K&N SRI. Very worth it!An intake can increase your fuel economy.
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Think about it. I paid 150 for my intake. Say a 3.5mpg increase at 3.80 a gallon. Thats a $.01/mile savings compared to old mpg. It'd only take 15k miles to pay back for the intake, plus keep more in your pocket afterwards.
You should put the stock intake back on just to quantify the increase.Yup, exactly why I bought mine. I'm seeing a 3-4mpg increase with my K&N SRI. Very worth it!
Think about it. I paid 150 for my intake. Say a 3.5mpg increase at 3.80 a gallon. Thats a $.01/mile savings compared to old mpg. It'd only take 15k miles to pay back for the intake, plus keep more in your pocket afterwards.
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As long as you do not get a oiled filter of any kind from K&N it will keep everything safe. Once you throw on an oiled air filter, the oils in the filter will run up into your intake manifold and coat the mass air flow sensor (which is essentially a small resistor that vibrates and tells your car if you are getting air flow and at what speed). If this happens, it will cost upwards of $150 or more to replace a stupid little sensor assembly and just piss you off royally. I learned the hard way. Otherwise, K&N makes all of its products to be reliable bolt-ons to increase MPG and car performance for the everyday driving enthusiast.
I don't believe this many of you still haven't seen the Spicer SAE filter test? ****, even by their own product data on their own website, the K&N only filters 96% of the dirt out of the air. That sounds good until you find out that the AC Delco filters out 99.93% of the dirt, which means the K&N Lets in 100 TIMES the amount of dirt as the stock filter.
http://home.roadrunner.com/~jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm
Mike
http://home.roadrunner.com/~jbplock/ISO5011/SPICER.htm
Mike
I have only experienced an oiled maf once (on my 1998 Contour SVT) and fixed that with a $5 can of Electronics Contact Cleaner.
Been running a KN CAI on my 2001 Silverado 5.3L for well over 70k and never once had an issue. It currently has 127k and still just as strong.
Yea I tried to do that on my 2003 Impala with an oiled CAI system and my car wouldnt get out of 1st gear and stall at about 5k RPM at about 25 mph. Sprayed it with some canned Air Sensor cleaner from Advanced auto parts, and nothing. Had to buy a replacement ACDelco maf sensor, 150 bucks later and 3 minutes to fix it and brand new.I have only experienced an oiled maf once (on my 1998 Contour SVT) and fixed that with a $5 can of Electronics Contact Cleaner.
And of course the ACDelco filter is suppose to filter all that out, you are also forgetting that the labyrinth system Chevy dubs as their "intake system" also robs the Cruze of a lot of underrated horsepower and gas mileage. Im not saying that is bad, but if you are looking for more hp and mpg, just looking at the intake system on most chevy's and you can tell that it restricts air flow through out the entire system. What people are looking for in a K&N filter system is the ability to suck in as much air as possible to the motor resulting in more hp and mpg. I think a lot of people are looking into the fact that you can also buy a K&N system and not have to replace the filter, EVER! As long as you wash, rinse, repeat every 10k miles or so, it will last the life of the vehicle. Even with CAI systems.
Well my 3.5 increase is from switching over from stock. With the intake bypassed, I havent tried that yet. And I may for a few thousand miles to see.You should put the stock intake back on just to quantify the increase.
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Guess I need to post this here too.
http://www.cruzetalk.com/forum/10-e...8149-interesting-air-filter-test-results.html
I ran a brand new factory oiled K&N on my Harley. The plate that the filter mounted to was chromed to a mirror finish. You could clearly see the trail of oil and dirt leading to the carburetor that the filter was letting through. I'd never use one on anything I own, but hey, if your motor lasts 100,00 miles while injesting oil and dirt, more power to you.
http://www.cruzetalk.com/forum/10-e...8149-interesting-air-filter-test-results.html
I ran a brand new factory oiled K&N on my Harley. The plate that the filter mounted to was chromed to a mirror finish. You could clearly see the trail of oil and dirt leading to the carburetor that the filter was letting through. I'd never use one on anything I own, but hey, if your motor lasts 100,00 miles while injesting oil and dirt, more power to you.
Ya think? Sounds like someone has a vested interest. Read the link above and get back to me. Better yet, provide me with a link that proves that K&N filters better than a stock filter and I'll shut up.LOL those "studies" are a joke... K&N filters BETTER than stock. If it was even equal to stock, and still flowed better, that is ALL you need/want.
Here is one link worth a read
K&N Air Filter Facts You Should Know
And another
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/air-filter-filtration-test/
Statement from K&N about MAF sensors
K&N Response to Mass Air Flow Sensor Concerns
Attached is a test between OEM paper filters and K&N filters. Its a British study so its in km/gallon not miles/gallon but regardless the paper beat K&N by ONLY 0.5 km/gallon or 0.31 miles per gallon. Not to mention K&N has countless studies proving that their filters last longer and also improve horsepower by upwards of 5% as well as MPGs.
K&N also states that their filters RANGE from 96%-99% contaminant free so even if the Cruze's filter is on the low end, I would take it since it will increase some extra hp.
K&N Air Filter Facts You Should Know
And another
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/air-filter-filtration-test/
Statement from K&N about MAF sensors
K&N Response to Mass Air Flow Sensor Concerns
Attached is a test between OEM paper filters and K&N filters. Its a British study so its in km/gallon not miles/gallon but regardless the paper beat K&N by ONLY 0.5 km/gallon or 0.31 miles per gallon. Not to mention K&N has countless studies proving that their filters last longer and also improve horsepower by upwards of 5% as well as MPGs.
K&N also states that their filters RANGE from 96%-99% contaminant free so even if the Cruze's filter is on the low end, I would take it since it will increase some extra hp.
Something seems fishy. No filter and the car got worse mileage than with a filter? I know some cars can be complicated, I just have a hard time believing the results are accurate.Opps, forgot the picture View attachment 7292
FWIW, I have had a K&N filter on my car for 10k miles and have not had a problem. It increased my mpg a little, but could be from the car breaking in too. Either way, I feel better knowing I don't have to buy another air filter again.
Your bobtheoilguy link actually made my point, thanks.Here is one link worth a read
K&N Air Filter Facts You Should Know
And another
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/air-filter-filtration-test/
K&N Response to Mass Air Flow Sensor Concerns
Attached is a test between OEM paper filters and K&N filters. Its a British study so its in km/gallon not miles/gallon but regardless the paper beat K&N by ONLY 0.5 km/gallon or 0.31 miles per gallon. Not to mention K&N has countless studies proving that their filters last longer and also improve horsepower by upwards of 5% as well as MPGs.
K&N also states that their filters RANGE from 96%-99% contaminant free so even if the Cruze's filter is on the low end, I would take it since it will increase some extra hp.
I didn't have to read the K&N links to know their bias....
I dont know why you have such hate towards K&N filters. Its not like they harm the vehicle. I had a circular K&N on my 93 Sonoma for 30k plus with no issues, increased my mpg by 3 mpg for a 4.3L V6. I also have one on my 2003 Impala 3.8L for the last 40k and it also increased my mpg by 2. I have yet to put one on my Cruze since I got it like 3 weeks ago, but in due time I will and I will never have to worry about dropping 15 bucks a pop for every paper filter I have to replace.
I've ran K&N filters in aviation and my own DD(which is also tracked). My engine is very healthy. Compression/leak down confirmed, with UOAs as well. 70K miles and regularly taken to 8600 RPM and only 1% loss across all cylinders. Sometimes the filters do come over oiled. It's on you the owner to look them over and decide. Along with my gain in power I also gained 7mpg with the accompanied tune.
Even is the dust laden fields of Iraq the filter was more than adequate. Same filter media as what's in my vehicle as well.
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Even is the dust laden fields of Iraq the filter was more than adequate. Same filter media as what's in my vehicle as well.
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