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Had a little bit of a scare with my cruze tonight. For the last few days ive been smelling burning oil and just figured it was other cars around me. Tonight it got alot worse to the point where i had backed up at night and saw a trail of smoke coming from my car and a strong smell inside of car. I popped the hood and found oil on the precat heat sheild and right below the oil filter cap. Very strong smell of oil. I loosend the cap which seemed fine and retightened it. Im using a 10 inch long adjustable wrench and just tighten it until the housing stops turning and feels nice and tight. its an awkward position so i dont think im over tightening it. I changed oil at 5000 miles and now am at 9200 and all of a sudden this is happening. oil filter is a napa gold and yes i oiled oring before installing. Is my tightening method wrong or could it be a faulty cap or oring? I have never had this problem before and to be honest at first it scared the crap out of me.
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I would recommend tightening to the torque spec written on the cap and verifying that the cap is not cracked and the o-ring is seated correctly and not damaged. Also be sure to check that the filter is snapped into place and there are no remnants of the old o-ring.

If you don't have a torque wrench, I would recommend investing in one.

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Please take a picture of you using a torque wrench on this. I'd love to see it.

How are you compensating for the universal or the contact with the hoses?

Not picking a fight but common sense will over rule a torque speck on this unless your a real dumbass and honkin' on it; To me anyways.
Torque spec is there like any other spec.

Follow it and you'll be fine. Freestyle your own approach and suffer the consequences.
It may be just a bad o-ring, I have had several bad ones. When it happens I take the car to the stealership, and get a free replacement even though I change my own oil.
There is a torque spec for worm drive hose clamps, too. To you put a torque wrench on them as well or do you know enough to stop before you strip it?

Common sense is a lot more valuable than any torque wrench.

Yes, I actually have three torque wrenches but only use them where they are needed.
Please take a picture of you using a torque wrench on this. I'd love to see it.

How are you compensating for the universal or the contact with the hoses?

Not picking a fight but common sense will over rule a torque speck on this unless your a real dumbass and honkin' on it; To me anyways.
Here are the components I use to access the oil filter housing on my 1.4L Turbo.

1/2 Socket > 1/2 swivel joint > 1/2 6" extension > 1/2-to-3/8 adapter > torque wrench

I can take a picture of this being utilized on my own vehicle if you require it, but I can assure you that it is possible with the flex elbow.
For my 2011 ECO - I just use the 24mm 3/8 in socket, a 6 inch extension and click type torque wrench. Access is clear no need for any other tools. I always replace the o-ring. No leaks so far.
There is a torque spec for worm drive hose clamps, too. To you put a torque wrench on them as well or do you know enough to stop before you strip it?

Common sense is a lot more valuable than any torque wrench.

Yes, I actually have three torque wrenches but only use them where they are needed.
Yes I was aware of that and yes I do.

Did you know that there's a torque value for the valve core in TPMS sensors? Too tight and the $40 sensor is toast and now you have to re and re the tire and wheel. Saves a a lot more shop time by using the little torque wrench.

I personally have three torque wrenches, including one Snap-on plus two torque sticks.

I have broken too many components over the years, or had them fall off, because they were either too tight or too loose. All it took was a couple of times and I learned a lesson.

But I guess you have a more developed sense of the power in your hands than I do. Your life partner must be very lucky.
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Here are the components I use to access the oil filter housing on my 1.4L Turbo.

1/2 Socket > 1/2 swivel joint > 1/2 6" extension > 1/2-to-3/8 adapter > torque wrench

I can take a picture of this being utilized on my own vehicle if you require it, but I can assure you that it is possible with the flex elbow.
Unless you are compensating for all the crap between your torque wrench and your socket you are under torquing it and wasting your time.
Here is a rough guide line you should consider next time you add any length then a universal. [FONT=verdana, arial, sans-serif]
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Add 3% torque for every inch of extension added, 10% for a universal or swivel socket.

You really can be as anal as you want I really don't care.
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Yes I was aware of that and yes I do.

Did you know that there's a torque value for the valve core in TPMS sensors? Too tight and the $40 sensor is toast and now you have to re and re the tire and wheel. Saves a a lot more shop time by using the little torque wrench.

I personally have three torque wrenches, including one Snap-on plus two torque sticks.

I have broken too many components over the years, or had them fall off, because they were either too tight or too loose. All it took was a couple of times and I learned a lesson.

But I guess you have a more developed sense of the power in your hands than I do. Your life partner must be very lucky.
Sound like you don't use your torque wrench when you should and not when its not really needed.:signs057:

Next you're gonna tell me I'm rotating my tires incorrectly.

If you actually knew anything other that what you read on the net you might know something.

You should actually get a few years of wrenching before you start telling people how dumb you are for watching parts fall off that you just installed.

One was probably a tire.:rock:

Not get back in that pit you grease monkey.
Sound like you don't use your torque wrench when you should and not when its not really needed.:signs057:

Next you're gonna tell me I'm rotating my tires incorrectly.

If you actually knew anything other that what you read on the net you might know something.

You should actually get a few years of wrenching before you start telling people how dumb you are for watching parts fall off that you just installed.

One was probably a tire.:rock:

Not get back in that pit you grease monkey.
When you fail to respond to questions or engage on issues - but choose instead to target your words against the individual - it is called an ad hominem attack. Exhibiting this behaviour, as you've done above, will result in a banning.

I have a lot more years wrenching than you think. The difference is it was on precision equipment and not some prehistoric Fordson-Major that granddaddy bought after one too many drinks in the saloon.
Sound like you don't use your torque wrench when you should and not when its not really needed.:signs057:

Next you're gonna tell me I'm rotating my tires incorrectly.

If you actually knew anything other that what you read on the net you might know something.

You should actually get a few years of wrenching before you start telling people how dumb you are for watching parts fall off that you just installed.

One was probably a tire.:rock:

Not get back in that pit you grease monkey.
Tomko has over 30 years of experience in the automotive industry. I consider him in many respects to be a subject matter expert. Whether or not you agree with him is no reason to disrespect him.

The personal attacks are uncalled for and are in violation of forum rules. They will stop immediately. Please review the forum rules:

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Rule #1 requires that you respect other members and further states that the CruzeTalk staff has zero tolerance for personal attacks, insults, and derogatory comments.

Consider this your only warning.
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Can I laugh now . Popcorn any one . Snap on Hah I have always liked snap on as long as they do not snap off !


:iroc-cop: The Torque Coppers are on Duty !


Yeah folks we can not just hand tighten our own Dang oil filters any more . You have to purchase a Torque wrench to adjust the tension of a flimsy plastic case that covers a flimsy oil filter that has a flimsy O ring attached ..

I know that I still can Get that cover as tight as it would possible need to be tightened with the palm of my Left or Right Hand . If I could possible Get one of the two palms onto that cover securely !
When you fail to respond to questions or engage on issues - but choose instead to target your words against the individual - it is called an ad hominem attack. Exhibiting this behaviour, as you've done above, will result in a banning.

I have a lot more years wrenching than you think. The difference is it was on precision equipment and not some prehistoric Fordson-Major that granddaddy bought after one too many drinks in the saloon.

The only question I didn't answer was they was about pulling on someone's pole.
Tomko has over 30 years of experience in the automotive industry. I consider him in many respects to be a subject matter expert. Whether or not you agree with him is no reason to disrespect him.

The personal attacks are uncalled for and are in violation of forum rules. They will stop immediately. Please review the forum rules:

http://www.cruzetalk.com/forum/6-new-cruzetalk/9056-cruzetalk-forum-guidelines-rules.html

Rule #1 requires that you respect other members and further states that the CruzeTalk staff has zero tolerance for personal attacks, insults, and derogatory comments.

Consider this your only warning.

Sorry.

I will make sure I post in third person from now on so I don't offend anyone.
The only question I didn't answer was they was about pulling on someone's pole.
That was a statement, not a question. But the following was a question that I did ask you.

Did you know that there's a torque value for the valve core in TPMS sensors? Too tight and the $40 sensor is toast and now you have to re and re the tire and wheel. Saves a a lot more shop time by using the little torque wrench.
I've never come across the following guideline before, but it makes sense to me.

Here is a rough guide line you should consider next time you add any length then a universal.

Add 3% torque for every inch of extension added, 10% for a universal or swivel socket.
For my 2011 ECO - I just use the 24mm 3/8 in socket, a 6 inch extension and click type torque wrench. Access is clear no need for any other tools. I always replace the o-ring. No leaks so far.
I don't mean to get back ON TOPIC but you can also use a 15/16" socket. A new O ring comes with the filter but are you centain you put it in the correct groove on the cap OP???
And the torque is ??? I own 2 cars with the 1.8 engine and I do not nor have I ever used a torque wrench on an oil filter nor an oil drain plug. I guess 50 years of changing filters and oil has given me the touch!
Replaced oil filter and o ring and it still leaks. I torqued it down to 222 inch pounds (18 ft lb ). Brought it to the dealership and we are hoping for a faulty filter cap. They had it on the lift running for 15 minutes and they are leaning towards a bad oil pan seal or a oil filter mount seal(where the lower filter hosing actually connects to block) but im hoping for filter cap. they sprayed it down with this white aerosol stuff and we will see tommorow what it is.
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