The dealership I talked to says the loaner cars are owned by GM. GM charges the dealers for cars rented out for a certain amount of days and with a certain amount of miles.Wish I saw these replies sooner, I already okay'd the repair. They did agree to give me 10% of the total repair bill (sarastic Wooo!) As for a loaner, they don't have any right now, but I'm "on the list." At this point I just want the lease to be over and never drive a GM vehicle again.
Appreciate the input. I guess I could still ask to see the clutch but I'm guessing it's gone.
Yeah, I told them about the TSB the first time I talked to them. They didn't seem too interested in it.There IS a TSB on this issue. It has to do with a part of the clutch hydraulics that gets clogged and blocks fluid flow. Have the dealership show you the TSB.. I'll try to find the number and post it here. IT IS A KNOWN PROBLEM with the clutch hydraulics on this car, and as others have stated, it requires transaxle removal to replace it.. so no dealership is going to WANT to do the fix, as that is a big job, and one can assume GM does not well compensate them for the work.
Because the fix takes considerable time, and I can bet that GM doesn't pay well, so if they have plenty of other work, they will make every excuse possible to not take this one on, it just takes too much time. The slave cylinder and problematic elbow in the hydraulic line require removal of the transaxle from the engine.. they will avoid this work if at all possible, or even claim it's not warranty and perhaps get you to pay for the work so it's more worth their time to do it. It is not surprising there are no more manuals.. few were buying them, and with these problems, any profit on a car is probably gone with one warranty job to fix any clutch issue (or DMF in my case).. the profit margin is pretty small to begin with.Yeah, I told them about the TSB the first time I talked to them. They didn't seem too interested in it.
Same here, clutch stock to the floor, and no gears can be engaged. Towed to the dealer. Need to change the whole clutch, with estimated 10h of labor.... Will talk about the TSB later to see what they will do...Recently, my gen 2 cruze’s clutch has been sticking to the floor. Sometimes it work. Perfectly, sometimes there’s absolutely 0 pressure and I can’t even drive my car, and sometimes it can be pushed in and will retract slowly or not at all. This just started happening after getting like a foot of snow for several days. Has anyone else had transmission, clutch, or gearbox problems in their manual trans cruzes?
Tough stuff. Notably, the EU and UK treat it as a safety issue and have a mandatory safety recall because it affects braking components. Safety recalls don't have anywhere that the manufacturer gets to argue about profit and say "Oh, it only affects a few cars we sold and we don't want it to cut into our profits." 100% of those cars are recalled in the EU and UK, period. Imagine if GM argued that they shouldn't have to replace the defective key cylinders in the old Cobalts because "The profit on those cars was so low..." [that we should continue to let people die instead of doing the recall]and with these problems, any profit on a car is probably gone with one warranty job to fix any clutch issue (or DMF in my case).. the profit margin is pretty small to begin with.
Just to be clear, I'm not saying the loss of money or lack of profit from these cars is a valid excuse to not do the right thing by the customer.. What I am saying is it absolutely plays into the calculation of what they do and do not do. As to the profit on the big cars, yep, but they LOSE money on small cars and electric vehicles, and you can thank CAFE standards for this situation. They make small high MPG cars at a LOSS, because they can't sell them at a profit, because they would have no buyers at those price points. So you then might ask: Why make cars and sell at a loss? Because the either do that, or do like former FCA (now Stelantis or whatever its name is this week) was doing.. they just pay EPA fines or pay Tesla for offsets due to CAFE standards. To even try to break even or make a profit, they have to massively inflate the prices of the larger vehicles people want or need (can't do a family trip in a compact with more than ONE kid, for example). That is why the cost of larger vehicles, new AND USED has been going up dramatically. Also, that is why we have longer and longer loan terms for cars... but this cycle can not continue. The new push to electric, with current technology is a pending disaster. The range estimates are overly optimistic. In real world highway driving these cars are NOT getting the estimates, and worse the idea that someone can get an electric pickup truck and tow ANYTHING for any distance is just pure fantasy. Only people that can afford an extra commuter car can make reasonable use of an electric vehicle with current technology, and the technology needed to change that dynamic is not yet close, the issue is storage, or battery technology and charging rates. I should also add the grid in no way has the capacity for a mass plug in rapid charge capability.Tough stuff. Notably, the EU and UK treat it as a safety issue and have a mandatory safety recall because it affects braking components. Safety recalls don't have anywhere that the manufacturer gets to argue about profit and say "Oh, it only affects a few cars we sold and we don't want it to cut into our profits." 100% of those cars are recalled in the EU and UK, period. Imagine if GM argued that they shouldn't have to replace the defective key cylinders in the old Cobalts because "The profit on those cars was so low..." [that we should continue to let people die instead of doing the recall]
GM pockets like $20,000 for every Escalade, Suburban, and huge Bro-dozer diesel dually 4x4 Truk-Nutz pickup sold. Use some of that profit to pay for the recall of the defective stuff they sold.
Notably, it's weird that ONLY the slave cylinders in the manual transmissions paired to the Diesel engines in model years 2016-2018 are failing. Those are the years of Opel/Vauxhall cars recalled. That whole thing points to a batch of transmissions made specifically for those cars (the transmissions must be made with specific gear ratios and final drive ratios), so whatever company supplied the slave cylinders for those transmissions must have a bad batch for 3 straight model years. Other cars with that transmission don't have this problem, so it must be something specific to THOSE SLAVE CYLINDERS for three years running that is the problem. How about going after the parts supplier for that? The transmission of my car was assembled in Austria, and I assume all the other 6MT transmissions come from that same plant. It's got to be one part supplier giving defective parts. Have them pay for it.
Tough stuff. Notably, the EU and UK treat it as a safety issue and have a mandatory safety recall because it affects braking components. Safety recalls don't have anywhere that the manufacturer gets to argue about profit and say "Oh, it only affects a few cars we sold and we don't want it to cut into our profits." 100% of those cars are recalled in the EU and UK, period. Imagine if GM argued that they shouldn't have to replace the defective key cylinders in the old Cobalts because "The profit on those cars was so low..." [that we should continue to let people die instead of doing the recall]
GM pockets like $20,000 for every Escalade, Suburban, and huge Bro-dozer diesel dually 4x4 Truk-Nutz pickup sold. Use some of that profit to pay for the recall of the defective stuff they sold.
Notably, it's weird that ONLY the slave cylinders in the manual transmissions paired to the Diesel engines in model years 2016-2018 are failing. Those are the years of Opel/Vauxhall cars recalled. That whole thing points to a batch of transmissions made specifically for those cars (the transmissions must be made with specific gear ratios and final drive ratios), so whatever company supplied the slave cylinders for those transmissions must have a bad batch for 3 straight model years. Other cars with that transmission don't have this problem, so it must be something specific to THOSE SLAVE CYLINDERS for three years running that is the problem. How about going after the parts supplier for that? The transmission of my car was assembled in Austria, and I assume all the other 6MT transmissions come from that same plant. It's got to be one part supplier giving defective parts. Have them pay for it.
My car is a 2018 Diesel 6MT.Hey Barry, just to be clear here, you mention from your sources that "Notably, it's weird that ONLY the slave cylinders in the manual transmissions paired to the Diesel engines in model years 2016-2018 are failing"
Are you saying this issue is not happening to regular gasoline vehicles with the 6 speed? I thought your car was regular gas as well and not diesel?
I have a 2016+ Cruze 6 Speed. I had that problem only once after doing a CDV Delete. It was the Slave cylinder leaking. Pop your hood, locate the brake fluid reservoir for the clutch system. Check it for leaks. Then follow the hose to the slave cylinder and check it for leaks. You should have someone pumping your clutch during this leak check. I replaced my slave cylinder and bled the system. No further issues.Recently, my gen 2 cruze’s clutch has been sticking to the floor. Sometimes it work. Perfectly, sometimes there’s absolutely 0 pressure and I can’t even drive my car, and sometimes it can be pushed in and will retract slowly or not at all. This just started happening after getting like a foot of snow for several days. Has anyone else had transmission, clutch, or gearbox problems in their manual trans cruzes?
