I am sure the car wil run better on 87 in the winter than summer.But no matter how you slice it it will go to low octane map no matter what with lower octane than 91
I suspect you're correct but I'm still going to give it a shot. I know from last winter that as long as the temperatures stayed below 60 it didn't matter if I ran 87 or 91, but as soon as they started to rise above that point I could tell the difference. I'm hoping that the copper plugs will raise that transition temperature to a point that I can run on 87 for part of the year and save myself some money in the process. In addition, as a practicing hyper-miler I will be monitoring my fuel economy while on 87 octane - if it starts to dip without the corresponding dip in outside temperatures that will also lead me back to 91, and probably back to full iridium plugs since there won't be any fuel cost savings to cover the cost of the annual plug replacement.I am sure the car wil run better on 87 in the winter than summer.But no matter how you slice it it will go to low octane map no matter what with lower octane than 91
Pay attention when you fill up next time and listen to the engine closely (rev it up a little bit and put your foot into it - 2.5k or so). You'll hear/feel the engine running a little louder/rougher and may jump a bit in acceleration as it tries to figure out what timing map to use (it's listening closely to the knock sensors). It'll even do it to some extent on 93, but it's more noticeable at first on 87/89. It seems to figure it out after a half mile or so.I suspect you're correct but I'm still going to give it a shot. I know from last winter that as long as the temperatures stayed below 60 it didn't matter if I ran 87 or 91, but as soon as they started to rise above that point I could tell the difference. I'm hoping that the copper plugs will raise that transition temperature to a point that I can run on 87 for part of the year and save myself some money in the process. In addition, as a practicing hyper-miler I will be monitoring my fuel economy while on 87 octane - if it starts to dip without the corresponding dip in outside temperatures that will also lead me back to 91, and probably back to full iridium plugs since there won't be any fuel cost savings to cover the cost of the annual plug replacement.
Question - how can the car tell what the octane is? I suspect its by monitoring the engine for knocking and it switches to the low octane map when it detects a certain amount of knock over a moving time period. When I went to dinner this evening there was no throttle pulsing that you feel when the engine is using the low octane map, but since it was below 40F I can't say if this is because of the plugs or because of the temperature. The OEM plugs also didn't knock on 87 octane at these lower temperatures.
Every car/company is different, but I think you're right on the money. The high octane map is fairly agressive and from what I understand the car is constantly trying to get there. It constantly monitors knock levels and attempts to put timing back into the engine until the knock threshold is breached again, tossing it back down to the low octane map and then starting the process over again shortly after.Question - how can the car tell what the octane is? I suspect its by monitoring the engine for knocking and it switches to the low octane map when it detects a certain amount of knock over a moving time period.
Reversed the numbers and removed the "Driver's Side" comment. Thank you.Interesting. I'll have to pull my new plugs out and see how they're wearing. Maybe this has something to do with the reduced 60,000 mi replacement interval?
Usually when numbering cylinders you start at the crank pulley end and count up from there, so your #2 and #4 plugs are the ones with the highest gaps.
Someone can correct me if my understanding is not correct, but the way I thinkt he Cruze works is it's constantly monitoring knock and trying to get timing advanced as far as possible up to what is in the primary ignition map. If it detects knock it doesn't automatically run off the low octane map, it just retards from the primary table to keep knock in check....I think its safe to say that the cruze monitors that also if it has 2 maps for low and high octane fuel