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OEM Steel / Winter Wheels for Diesel Snow Tires

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Diesel Brethren:

For the past week I have been working diligently with my truly excellent parts man to find a steel GM wheel for our Diesel models.

First let me begin by explaining the factory wheel that all North American diesels wear. The wheel is a 17x7", 5x115mm bolt pattern with a 41mm positive offset.

I could find only three 17", 5x115, steel wheels in GM's vast repertoire. I measured and test fit them as follows:

9595657 17x6.5 5x115 52mm offset Uplander - Does not clear Diesel calliper.

9596578 17x6.5 5x115 46mm offset Impala - Does not clear Diesel calliper.

9598749 17x7.5 5x115 53mm offset Impala - Clears the Diesel calliper by 5mm but spins closer to the strut than stock. When combined with the .5" greater width and 12mm more offset the wheel is 18mm closer to the inside of the vehicle than stock.

So as you can see there is only one 17" wheel that could work. However with a rubber tire mounted the chance of interference is magnified by the 18mm greater intrusion into the wheel well. As a result I did not mount a tire to the wheel to test further.

This meant that I had to expand my search to 16" steel wheels that could work. Again, an in depth search of GM's substantial history of steel wheels resulted in only five wheels turning up with the requisite 5x115 bolt pattern. They are: 9595551 16x6.5 Impala; 9595560 16x6.5 Impala; 9595642 16x6.5 Aztek; 9595647 16x6.5 Impala Police; 13259235 16x6.5 Orlando.

As Orlando is a P car relative of Cruze I decided to focus on 13259235. It measured 41mm offset, identical to that of our factory wheel, and when mounted it had better brake calliper and wheel well clearance than 9598749.

So for anyone looking for OEM steel wheels to fit their Cruze Diesel the part number you want is 13259235.

When combined with a 215/60R16 winter or snow tire the rotational difference is only 0.58% from the stock 215/55R17.

I want to thank my long-time parts man, Chris at Tubman Chevrolet, who's ongoing patience and support were vital to the completion of this project.
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Nice...only thing I don't understand is how the 17's didn't clear the calipers and the 16's do?...Before you buy them I would try them if they fit as described.
The 17s were one inch wider and 12mm more offset so they were pushed 18mm more inboard.

I fit a 16" Orlando rim to the front of my Diesel today and it cleared everything beautifully. It's 0.5" narrower and 1.0" less in diameter than stock, but the same offset.
 

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earlier thread on here said 45 offset for the diesel rim?

what up with that?
In total I measured nine wheels this week, taking several samples of each, so I gained a lot of experience measuring for offset, etc.

When I pulled my Diesel wheel it measured out at 41 for me.
 

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hakka 7's come in 215/60r16....sweet

was planning on getting stock size and using the stock wheels....ive always had oem alloys for winter as well

never used steel....how long do/would they last?

thanks for the effort here, was hoping someone would do it....
My Father ran dedicated OEM alloys for snow tires on his Cadillac for 10+ years. Everything worked great until the one year he didn't clean them up after winter. From then on he was battling rim leaks non stop.

I've run dedicated GM steel wheels for snow tires since 1990. I've never had a rim leak or other failure. After a decade or so the wheels start to look crappy - but the same is true of alloys.

If you're anywhere they use salt I'd go with steel.

The Hakka 7s are nice - but the Hakka 8s are da bomb!
 

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10-4

any idea on the weights of the steel wheels....theyre heavier arent they?

sure we're gonna lose mpg automatically in the cold, snow, winter tires, etc...but wheel weight is important too
I didn't weigh the wheel but probably will compare the factory wheel/tire combo to my winter set-up.
 

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The wheels I tested are all GM OEM product.

They are likely built to a higher quality than that sold by Costco, Wal-Mart, Canadian Tire, etc.

FWIW I checked the Costco wheel compendium and they do not list any wheel for our Diesel model.
 

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I picked up a set of these used, tried one on and it fit. It wasn't until I took off the old tires to install new ones that I saw the sticker on the inside of the rim.
It states that they are "5x114.3" not 5x115 that the Cruze takes.

Google has many posts concerning running a 5.114.3 on 5x115 hub. I think I may keep looking for true 5x115 rims.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Please see Chris at Tubman Chevrolet for part number 13259235 as described in the first post on this thread.

So for anyone looking for OEM steel wheels to fit their Cruze Diesel the part number you want is 13259235.

When combined with a 215/60R16 winter or snow tire the rotational difference is only 0.58% from the stock 215/55R17.

I want to thank my long-time parts man, Chris at Tubman Chevrolet, who's ongoing patience and support were vital to the completion of this project.
 

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I am currently doing just that. CT here in WPG supplied these to me as a fitment. Had no idea about the 114.3. I'll let you know what happens.
Seems to me they are setting themselves for a legal issue if something happens. Makes me a little nervous as I am running these. Will contact them
and mention something in writing. Will let you know.
I just purchased a set of 16" Alloy wheels from an online outfit in Canada and they told me that 5x114.3 will fit no worries. I was thinking the same thing about them being very liable if something were to happen being that the rims are not the "listed" correct size. They have not arrived yet so we shall see how they fit.
Boys, you live in Canada. Courts there interpret liability in different ways than in the USA.

All that CTC's lawyer has to do is show that you knew there was an element of risk as proven by your posts here. Then you're stuck with some expensive lawyer bills and no California million dollar settlement to pay for it.
 

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So it looks like the CTD stock wheel offset is 40mm. The Volt OEM rims are apparently 35mm. Is it even worth getting a spacer? Tirerack offers rims from 35 to 45mm offset for the CTD.
Factory diesel wheel measures 41 mm offset.
 

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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/crr-83-66518/overview/ I ran across these the size is correct and the offset seems good. I know there is a member that's near summit so lets try this its a good price also
Good find!

I suggest you test fit one before pulling the lever. If that picture is accurate they may not clear the very large front callipers on the diesel. If you pull up a picture of the OEM steelie, 13259235, and pay particular attention to the part of the wheel where the calliper resides, you'll notice that it is much more prenounced than that of this aftermarket wheel.
 
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So this winter we will have General Altimax Arctics on TD #1, Nokian Hakka R2's on TD #2, and Blizzak WS80's on the Eco.
Excellent! Love to hear your compare and contrast. As well as traction to dollar ratio.
 
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So if I trade in my Cruze Eco for a Diesel my winter wheels won't fit?

5x105 vs 5x115? Damnit that's stupid!
Larger hub and brakes to handle the heavier and more powerful diesel variant = smart in my books.
 

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You want to verify the backspacing. The Cruze diesel wheels have 44mm offset. I found a set of wheels from a Chev Orlando that fit. They have 41mm backspacing.



One thing I did run into was the wheel nuts. Once you put a set of steel wheels on, you will find that the studs are too long for the stock 'dressed' nuts. You will have to get a set of open lug nuts. I didn't and ended up popping the chrome cover off. Then I had a vibration problem. With the chrome covers, you cannot torque the nuts properly as they 'bottom out' on the studs.
Not sure what your source is but I've personally measured my factory wheels and they are 41mm offset.

As for your nuts not being long enough I can only state that my factory nuts on the Orlando wheels fit perfectly - and have done so now for the third winter.
 

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Thank tomko for the rim number for the Orlando. My dealer wants a bend over price. 190 some dollars, the Orlando is strictly Canadian sonor readily available in USA, I did find a used one for 75.00 on the net. I hate buying used unseen
Orlando is no longer available in Canada. Not sure why, but it wasn't exactly the kind of thing you'd take to your local show and shine. IIRC I paid $60 a wheel. Maybe you could source them out of a Canadian dealership to see if the pricing is more reasonable.

I agree on used wheels. They give me the creeps.

I once bought a brand new in the box Cadillac wheel for about half of what I'd normally pay. Looked 100% legit - and I'm a picky SOB sometimes. Well, after just two years of occasional summer use don't you know that the chrome started peeling off that wheel. Whereas the four I bought directly from GM still look brand new to this day. So whoever it was on eBay managed to get a hold of finished product that was rejected by GMSPO QC. I got what I deserved. And so much for saving ~$350. Another lesson learned in life about not really saving money.

Also Gator we're now in spring so it's kind of low season for buying snow tires. What's up with the weather in Columbus?
 

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The two cars use the same wheel size as the Cruze diesel is based on the Verano powertrain.
In what way is the Cruze diesel based on the Verano Powertrain?
 
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The CTD factory wheel is 41 mm offset.
 

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Thanks for the offer! But I am not going to go with steel wheels. They just don't stand up to the salt. And they look awful after the first year
Salt + steel wheels = crappy looks.

Salt + aluminum wheels = rim leaks.

Take your pick.
 
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I think you may have made a mistake on the offset and it should be 44mm. This matches up with the OEM wheel on my car:

Manufacturer Part Number: 13367272
Number of Studs: 5
Stud Diameter: 115
Year: 2014
Offset: 44
Condition and Options: Mk6 (J) 17" Alloy 5-Double Spokes (Ident AAN5)
Rim Diameter: 17
Rim Width: 7J
MPN: 13367272
You know, the internet is a funny place. Full of information - sometimes right / sometimes wrong - from sources of unknown origin and veracity. For example, there were - and still are - places on the internet that claim the CTD wheel is a 105mm bolt circle.

That’s why I removed the wheel off of my CTD 4.5 years ago and measured it myself.

That’s where my 41mm offset figure comes from: my own measurement.
 
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