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Diesel Brethren:

For the past week I have been working diligently with my truly excellent parts man to find a steel GM wheel for our Diesel models.

First let me begin by explaining the factory wheel that all North American diesels wear. The wheel is a 17x7", 5x115mm bolt pattern with a 41mm positive offset.

I could find only three 17", 5x115, steel wheels in GM's vast repertoire. I measured and test fit them as follows:

9595657 17x6.5 5x115 52mm offset Uplander - Does not clear Diesel calliper.

9596578 17x6.5 5x115 46mm offset Impala - Does not clear Diesel calliper.

9598749 17x7.5 5x115 53mm offset Impala - Clears the Diesel calliper by 5mm but spins closer to the strut than stock. When combined with the .5" greater width and 12mm more offset the wheel is 18mm closer to the inside of the vehicle than stock.

So as you can see there is only one 17" wheel that could work. However with a rubber tire mounted the chance of interference is magnified by the 18mm greater intrusion into the wheel well. As a result I did not mount a tire to the wheel to test further.

This meant that I had to expand my search to 16" steel wheels that could work. Again, an in depth search of GM's substantial history of steel wheels resulted in only five wheels turning up with the requisite 5x115 bolt pattern. They are: 9595551 16x6.5 Impala; 9595560 16x6.5 Impala; 9595642 16x6.5 Aztek; 9595647 16x6.5 Impala Police; 13259235 16x6.5 Orlando.

As Orlando is a P car relative of Cruze I decided to focus on 13259235. It measured 41mm offset, identical to that of our factory wheel, and when mounted it had better brake calliper and wheel well clearance than 9598749.

So for anyone looking for OEM steel wheels to fit their Cruze Diesel the part number you want is 13259235.

When combined with a 215/60R16 winter or snow tire the rotational difference is only 0.58% from the stock 215/55R17.

I want to thank my long-time parts man, Chris at Tubman Chevrolet, who's ongoing patience and support were vital to the completion of this project.
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Anyone know if the Impala wheels will fit?
I just picked up a set of Impala steelies 5x115 R16 52mm offset and they did not clear the Diesel Cruze front caliper.

Now I am trying to decide if I want to fork over $102 for an Orlando steel rim from the dealer or $110 for an aftermarket alloy wheel?
 

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I am currently doing just that. CT here in WPG supplied these to me as a fitment. Had no idea about the 114.3. I'll let you know what happens.
Seems to me they are setting themselves for a legal issue if something happens. Makes me a little nervous as I am running these. Will contact them
and mention something in writing. Will let you know.
I just purchased a set of 16" Alloy wheels from an online outfit in Canada and they told me that 5x114.3 will fit no worries. I was thinking the same thing about them being very liable if something were to happen being that the rims are not the "listed" correct size. They have not arrived yet so we shall see how they fit.
 

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There are a lot of mixed reviews about whether or not these wheels are safely interchangeable. Many say that they should not be used just because the listed size number is not the same. I do tend to agree with that to a point. However, I found this post below on another site about wheel manufacturing and I am sure there is some truth to this as well.

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115mm and 114.3mm are .7mm apart.


.7 millimeters = 0.0275590551 inches

To be fair, that's .03 inches. That's right - thirty thousandths of an inch.

Keep in mind, that it's not .030" at each bolt location - it's .030" across the widest point - that makes for .015" at each hole.

Guess what? There is a margin of error when milling/stamping wheels. Said margin of error usually encompasses that .030".

Fact is, if you buy rims for a GM 5x115 pattern from TireRack and many other companies, they are probably selling you 5x114.3 wheels. Call and ask.
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I will definitely be test fitting and measuring the lugs of the new 114.3 wheels and comparing to that of the OEM 115 wheels. If they are not extremely close I will return the 114.3 wheel set.
 

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In all likely hood I will end up returning the 5x114.3 wheels I have on order. As I do not want to risk any complications or have any doubts about the safety of the vehicle. But, I will measure and compare to the OEM wheels before I do.
It is to bad that GM had to use a size that can physically be interchanged to begin with. They could have just used 5x114.3 like most other manufactures and avoided this possibly serious safety issue.
 

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In all likely hood I will end up returning the 5x114.3 wheels I have on order. As I do not want to risk any complications or have any doubts about the safety of the vehicle. But, I will measure and compare to the OEM wheels before I do.
It is to bad that GM had to use a size that can physically be interchanged to begin with. They could have just used 5x114.3 like most other manufactures and avoided this possibly serious safety issue.
So I tried to test fit the 5x114.3mm wheels on my car today, and I can tell without measuring that there is a noticeable offset of the studs to the outside from center on all lugs. SO despite what the wheel salesman said, do not try to use 114.3 wheels on a 115 lug. You may be able to mount the wheels on the car, but you will definitely be forcing your lug nuts on improperly.
 

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I am having a hard time with the idea of paying dealer prices for the steelies!
So, I have done more research on a "cheap" steel wheel for the Diesel Cruze.

I found a listing for both 16" and 17" universal fit steel wheels that are supposed to fit the Diesel Cruze at Costco.ca
16": X99128N $38.99 each and 17": X99715N $58.99 each.

Here is a link to their fitment guide (see pg.13):
http://www.costco.ca/wcsstore/Costc.../Attachment/Steel_Wheels_Catalogue_Oct_20.pdf

I know Costco has an excellent return policy so if they don't fit oh well I'll take em' back.

I would guess that for ya'll south of the border that Costco.com has similar listings.
 
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I bought my steelies from the dealership for $64each. I really didn't find that overly expensive.
I was quoted $102. For that price it was tempting to buy alloys, but that has been difficult as well...

anyways, I ordered the 16" steel rims from Costco.ca, I hope they fit!
 

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i finaly decided to cancel my order at Costco, even if the 17 inch steel would fit, i read they are heavy and are meant for trucks, i think i am going with Alloys or have the winter tires installed on the original alloy rims. Putting steels defeats the whole purpose of having a diesel car... fuel economy. Why not contribute by putting lighter Alloys, for a couple of hundred bucks more, some nice wheels that are easier to carry too. I will let you know my final setup and post a picture.
Steel wheels are a bit heavier than a comparable sized alloy. I have found in harsh winter driving that the steel wheels work well, and you don't have to feel bad about hitting a curb hidden under 8" of fresh snow! I have never noticed much of a change in fuel economy on previous cars after changing from alloys to steels. That is why I am going with 16", to reduce weight and also increase flex of the rubber due to increased thickness. It helps in the winter make the road a bit smother on rough icy surfaces and also offers a bit more protection of the wheels.
 

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In looking at the Costco web site they list:

99128" as a Multi-Fit 16x6.5 5x114.3 71.5
99715 as 17x7 5x114.3 71.5.

Both of which are wrong according to their listed specs.

I am considering the 99125 16x6.5 5x115 70.3. At least these are closer to spec.

Has anyone fit these yet?

http://www.costco.ca/wcsstore/Costc.../Attachment/Steel_Wheels_Catalogue_Oct_20.pdf
I am not sure where you got those alternate specs for the X99128N, but they are listed as 5x115. As for proper fitment, I am supposed to receive mine on Oct. 30. So I will update with the results when they arrive.
 

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Yup i agree with you, but what i don't understand is why does GM put a 17 inch wheel stock and then you read in this forum that some people have trouble fitting 17 inch steel wheels with 17 inch tires? that caliper is too big and wheel clearance is not good. i mean if i have 17 inch wheels stock, i want 17 inch wheels for winter too. why i have to put 16 inch? doesn't make any sense to me. So i now i have this dilemma, do i buy 215-55-17 tires or 215-60-16. Do i buy 16 inch or 17 inch alloys ? i am not buying steel rims for sure.
Well if you rule out steel rims altogether, then the decision as you said is whether to go with 16" or 17"?
You could buy nice 17" wheels and use them for summer and use the OEM 17" wheels for winter tires. If you have a 17" wheel and a 17" tire it should fit as long as the rim width is compatible with the tire. If you are just looking for "cheap" alloys for winter then I would go with 16" as they are cheaper and you get the taller side wall with is nice for winter. Its a personal preference though. Looks wise a 17" will be a bit nicer than a 16". I can say that 16" wheels will clear the brake rotor and calipers as I have had a set on my car already that cleared, but it was the wrong bolt pattern.
 

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i have decided to follow your advice and keep the OEM 17'' for winter and get a better wheel this summer. thanks for the advice, i will avoid some headaches and will have plenty of time to find the right wheel for spring. :goodjob:
Good plan!
 

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When's everyone plan to put theirs on. I'm shooting for this weekend as it looks like consistent temps in the 50's or lower from here on out. Don't want to push it too long and get snow mid-week when I don't have time to put them on..
Still waiting on my winter wheels, but I am not to concerned here even in southern Saskatchewan. Temps this week are to hover in 30's and low 40's for highs but still no real snow threat. Likely by mid November they will be needed.
 

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just a quick question, if i put summer mags on the cruze diesel and the wheel is 17x7.5 and offset is 42 mm is that ok with the goodyear oem tire 215-55-17 ?

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Should fit fine.
 

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I am reading the info right form the Costco.ca Website. The PDF that opens from the link on their site lists the specs for the rim under the part number (see pages 73 & 82).

www.costco.ca/wcsstore/CostcoCABCCatalogAssetStore/Attachment/Steel_Wheels_Catalogue_Oct_20.pdf.

Do have another location that gives specs for these steel part numbers?

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Oh great... it does state at the bottom (pg. 73) that they are a 114.3mm even though on (pg. 13) it shows the Cruze TD as a 5x115. Why do all these companies keep selling 114.3 wheels for 115 cars? Man that seems like a major liability.

I will absolutely not be using these wheels then if they are 114.3. I have already tried a set with that lug pattern and they do not properly fit, they will mount and the lug nuts can be forced on, but I myself do not want to risk broken studs and wheel vibrations.

Well I guess I am going to plan... lets see is it F or G... I guess I will order some 17" winter tires and put them on the OEM alloys....either that or give in and order the darn GM factory steel wheels that Tomko listed oh way back on the first post!
 

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I am trying to find alloys in canada websites with pcd of 5 x 115 with no luck. All i find is 5 x 114.3 ? ?
They have a few options at this site http://www.tdotperformance.ca
Also it appears TireRack.com will ship to Canada, but it is a bit expensive.

I think I have decided to use my OEM alloys for the winter tires and I will be buying new alloys for the summer.
 

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TD Cruze, I got my steels at Canadian Tire, and 16" Michelin X-Ice. Fantastic traction/braking, smoother, quieter ride than the horrible Michelin Pilot's on the 18" LTZ wheels.
What is the part or item number of your rims?

*edit* Never mind, I just realized you have an LTZ so your rims will not fit on the diesel.
 

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I found some rims on TDOT website, i am not sure they will fit because of the +38mm offset and the specs are:

YearMakeModelWheel DiameterWheel WidthBolt PatternOffset
allALLALLWheel Diameter: 17 in.Wheel Width: 7 in.5x115, Bolt Pattern: 5x112Offset: +38 mm

will they fit?
They should fit no problem, our OEM wheels are 41mm offset on 17" wheels.
 
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