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OEM Steel / Winter Wheels for Diesel Snow Tires

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Diesel Brethren:

For the past week I have been working diligently with my truly excellent parts man to find a steel GM wheel for our Diesel models.

First let me begin by explaining the factory wheel that all North American diesels wear. The wheel is a 17x7", 5x115mm bolt pattern with a 41mm positive offset.

I could find only three 17", 5x115, steel wheels in GM's vast repertoire. I measured and test fit them as follows:

9595657 17x6.5 5x115 52mm offset Uplander - Does not clear Diesel calliper.

9596578 17x6.5 5x115 46mm offset Impala - Does not clear Diesel calliper.

9598749 17x7.5 5x115 53mm offset Impala - Clears the Diesel calliper by 5mm but spins closer to the strut than stock. When combined with the .5" greater width and 12mm more offset the wheel is 18mm closer to the inside of the vehicle than stock.

So as you can see there is only one 17" wheel that could work. However with a rubber tire mounted the chance of interference is magnified by the 18mm greater intrusion into the wheel well. As a result I did not mount a tire to the wheel to test further.

This meant that I had to expand my search to 16" steel wheels that could work. Again, an in depth search of GM's substantial history of steel wheels resulted in only five wheels turning up with the requisite 5x115 bolt pattern. They are: 9595551 16x6.5 Impala; 9595560 16x6.5 Impala; 9595642 16x6.5 Aztek; 9595647 16x6.5 Impala Police; 13259235 16x6.5 Orlando.

As Orlando is a P car relative of Cruze I decided to focus on 13259235. It measured 41mm offset, identical to that of our factory wheel, and when mounted it had better brake calliper and wheel well clearance than 9598749.

So for anyone looking for OEM steel wheels to fit their Cruze Diesel the part number you want is 13259235.

When combined with a 215/60R16 winter or snow tire the rotational difference is only 0.58% from the stock 215/55R17.

I want to thank my long-time parts man, Chris at Tubman Chevrolet, who's ongoing patience and support were vital to the completion of this project.
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As Orlando is a P car relative of Cruze I decided to focus on 13259235. It measured 41mm offset, identical to that of our factory wheel, and when mounted it had better brake calliper and wheel well clearance than 9598749.

So for anyone looking for OEM steel wheels to fit their Cruze Diesel the part number you want is 13259235.

When combined with a 215/60R16 winter or snow tire the rotational difference is only 0.58% from the stock 215/55R17.

I want to thank my long-time parts man, Chris at Tubman Chevrolet, who's ongoing patience and support were vital to the completion of this project.
Thanks for all the info Tomko !! I bought snow tires from the dealer when I purchased my Diesel 2 months ago, first snow falls tried to put the tires on .... no fit. :$#angry:

Long story short I had to provide my dealer with your part number before we got it all sorted out. :yahoo:

Cheers and Merry Christmas ! :xmas:
 

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Anyone know if the Impala wheels will fit?
03 impala 16 inch steel wheels from Canadian tire an their made in usa quality is equal to oem .I test fitted on my diesel an offset was perfect. I will post product # tomorrow after work . we often trade back an forth with local gm dealer. Canadian tire has lots of suppliers so check sticker on rims. mine did say made in usa.
 

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Anyone know if the Impala wheels will fit?
I just picked up a set of Impala steelies 5x115 R16 52mm offset and they did not clear the Diesel Cruze front caliper.

Now I am trying to decide if I want to fork over $102 for an Orlando steel rim from the dealer or $110 for an aftermarket alloy wheel?
 

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Yea but that's a standard 17"
 

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Just got a set of MACPEK X42755 steels from Can. Tire 62.99 ea. Fit perfectly.
I picked up a set of these used, tried one on and it fit. It wasn't until I took off the old tires to install new ones that I saw the sticker on the inside of the rim.
It states that they are "5x114.3" not 5x115 that the Cruze takes.

Google has many posts concerning running a 5.114.3 on 5x115 hub. I think I may keep looking for true 5x115 rims.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?
 

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I picked up a set of these used, tried one on and it fit. It wasn't until I took off the old tires to install new ones that I saw the sticker on the inside of the rim.
It states that they are "5x114.3" not 5x115 that the Cruze takes.

Google has many posts concerning running a 5.114.3 on 5x115 hub. I think I may keep looking for true 5x115 rims.

Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Please see Chris at Tubman Chevrolet for part number 13259235 as described in the first post on this thread.

So for anyone looking for OEM steel wheels to fit their Cruze Diesel the part number you want is 13259235.

When combined with a 215/60R16 winter or snow tire the rotational difference is only 0.58% from the stock 215/55R17.

I want to thank my long-time parts man, Chris at Tubman Chevrolet, who's ongoing patience and support were vital to the completion of this project.
 

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Yes Thanks I am very appreciative of you efforts and the article that was written. I simply am just try to save a few bucks by not buying brand new.

Also I am curious to know if anyone has run a 114.3 on a 115 hub.

Thanks,

Tony
 

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Yes Thanks I am very appreciative of you efforts and the article that was written. I simply am just try to save a few bucks by not buying brand new.

Also I am curious to know if anyone has run a 114.3 on a 115 hub.

Thanks,

Tony
I am currently doing just that. CT here in WPG supplied these to me as a fitment. Had no idea about the 114.3. I'll let you know what happens.
Seems to me they are setting themselves for a legal issue if something happens. Makes me a little nervous as I am running these. Will contact them
and mention something in writing. Will let you know.
 

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I am currently doing just that. CT here in WPG supplied these to me as a fitment. Had no idea about the 114.3. I'll let you know what happens.
Seems to me they are setting themselves for a legal issue if something happens. Makes me a little nervous as I am running these. Will contact them
and mention something in writing. Will let you know.
I just purchased a set of 16" Alloy wheels from an online outfit in Canada and they told me that 5x114.3 will fit no worries. I was thinking the same thing about them being very liable if something were to happen being that the rims are not the "listed" correct size. They have not arrived yet so we shall see how they fit.
 

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I am currently doing just that. CT here in WPG supplied these to me as a fitment. Had no idea about the 114.3. I'll let you know what happens.
Seems to me they are setting themselves for a legal issue if something happens. Makes me a little nervous as I am running these. Will contact them
and mention something in writing. Will let you know.
I just purchased a set of 16" Alloy wheels from an online outfit in Canada and they told me that 5x114.3 will fit no worries. I was thinking the same thing about them being very liable if something were to happen being that the rims are not the "listed" correct size. They have not arrived yet so we shall see how they fit.
Boys, you live in Canada. Courts there interpret liability in different ways than in the USA.

All that CTC's lawyer has to do is show that you knew there was an element of risk as proven by your posts here. Then you're stuck with some expensive lawyer bills and no California million dollar settlement to pay for it.
 

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I agree. 0.35 mm (0.7mm/2) may not seem like much, but tell that to your wheel studs that now have a bending load applied to them. I would recommend staying FAR away from 114.3mm wheels unless you have them machined to the proper pattern. I'm not sure if that's possible with steel wheels, and if it was it would probably be cost prohibitive.
 

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There are a lot of mixed reviews about whether or not these wheels are safely interchangeable. Many say that they should not be used just because the listed size number is not the same. I do tend to agree with that to a point. However, I found this post below on another site about wheel manufacturing and I am sure there is some truth to this as well.

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115mm and 114.3mm are .7mm apart.


.7 millimeters = 0.0275590551 inches

To be fair, that's .03 inches. That's right - thirty thousandths of an inch.

Keep in mind, that it's not .030" at each bolt location - it's .030" across the widest point - that makes for .015" at each hole.

Guess what? There is a margin of error when milling/stamping wheels. Said margin of error usually encompasses that .030".

Fact is, if you buy rims for a GM 5x115 pattern from TireRack and many other companies, they are probably selling you 5x114.3 wheels. Call and ask.
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I will definitely be test fitting and measuring the lugs of the new 114.3 wheels and comparing to that of the OEM 115 wheels. If they are not extremely close I will return the 114.3 wheel set.
 

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Thirty thousandths may not SOUND like much, but to visualize it just think about the gap in your spark plugs.

Er, since this is a diesel thread that will only work if you're familiar with gas. :)

Anyway, half of a spark plug gap is still a very significant offset when you consider the short distance over which that offset is is applied. As a quick and dirty guestimate, if the wheel hub and brake rotor combined are 1/2" thick and the wheel is another 1/2" thick between the wheel nut and the rotor face, that 0.015" offset equals 0.86 degrees. That's almost a full degree of bending on a 12mm (1/2") wheel stud.

There are probably people doing it, but that doesn't make it right. If you asked any Engineer they would surely agree.
 

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Yes, I had the same conversation at work with one of my Mech Eng's. Plus my garage recommends the same. Since I'm leasing I'm going with the 5x115. The only issue is when buying used since a lot of sellers have no idea what they have.

Ah well it's my own fault for the frustration... I just don't see myself spending money on a set of multifit rims from Crappy Tire costing $400!
 
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