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Diesel Brethren:

For the past week I have been working diligently with my truly excellent parts man to find a steel GM wheel for our Diesel models.

First let me begin by explaining the factory wheel that all North American diesels wear. The wheel is a 17x7", 5x115mm bolt pattern with a 41mm positive offset.

I could find only three 17", 5x115, steel wheels in GM's vast repertoire. I measured and test fit them as follows:

9595657 17x6.5 5x115 52mm offset Uplander - Does not clear Diesel calliper.

9596578 17x6.5 5x115 46mm offset Impala - Does not clear Diesel calliper.

9598749 17x7.5 5x115 53mm offset Impala - Clears the Diesel calliper by 5mm but spins closer to the strut than stock. When combined with the .5" greater width and 12mm more offset the wheel is 18mm closer to the inside of the vehicle than stock.

So as you can see there is only one 17" wheel that could work. However with a rubber tire mounted the chance of interference is magnified by the 18mm greater intrusion into the wheel well. As a result I did not mount a tire to the wheel to test further.

This meant that I had to expand my search to 16" steel wheels that could work. Again, an in depth search of GM's substantial history of steel wheels resulted in only five wheels turning up with the requisite 5x115 bolt pattern. They are: 9595551 16x6.5 Impala; 9595560 16x6.5 Impala; 9595642 16x6.5 Aztek; 9595647 16x6.5 Impala Police; 13259235 16x6.5 Orlando.

As Orlando is a P car relative of Cruze I decided to focus on 13259235. It measured 41mm offset, identical to that of our factory wheel, and when mounted it had better brake calliper and wheel well clearance than 9598749.

So for anyone looking for OEM steel wheels to fit their Cruze Diesel the part number you want is 13259235.

When combined with a 215/60R16 winter or snow tire the rotational difference is only 0.58% from the stock 215/55R17.

I want to thank my long-time parts man, Chris at Tubman Chevrolet, who's ongoing patience and support were vital to the completion of this project.
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So if I trade in my Cruze Eco for a Diesel my winter wheels won't fit?

5x105 vs 5x115? Damnit that's stupid!
Larger hub and brakes to handle the heavier and more powerful diesel variant = smart in my books.
 

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Called my dealer today thinking I better get one of these rims 13259235 quote was 193.00 and we need to order. Guess that's why my timing belt change was so high.
Did find one on the net for 75.00 through original wheels. I have over 106000 miles on original OEM tires with several plugs. Not ready to replace yet, still lot of life left in them
 

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You want to verify the backspacing. The Cruze diesel wheels have 44mm offset. I found a set of wheels from a Chev Orlando that fit. They have 41mm backspacing.

Will 2006 Saturn vue rim work? It's 16 x 6.5 x115 mm
One thing I did run into was the wheel nuts. Once you put a set of steel wheels on, you will find that the studs are too long for the stock 'dressed' nuts. You will have to get a set of open lug nuts. I didn't and ended up popping the chrome cover off. Then I had a vibration problem. With the chrome covers, you cannot torque the nuts properly as they 'bottom out' on the studs.
 

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You want to verify the backspacing. The Cruze diesel wheels have 44mm offset. I found a set of wheels from a Chev Orlando that fit. They have 41mm backspacing.



One thing I did run into was the wheel nuts. Once you put a set of steel wheels on, you will find that the studs are too long for the stock 'dressed' nuts. You will have to get a set of open lug nuts. I didn't and ended up popping the chrome cover off. Then I had a vibration problem. With the chrome covers, you cannot torque the nuts properly as they 'bottom out' on the studs.
Not sure what your source is but I've personally measured my factory wheels and they are 41mm offset.

As for your nuts not being long enough I can only state that my factory nuts on the Orlando wheels fit perfectly - and have done so now for the third winter.
 

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Thank tomko for the rim number for the Orlando. My dealer wants a bend over price. 190 some dollars, the Orlando is strictly Canadian sonor readily available in USA, I did find a used one for 75.00 on the net. I hate buying used unseen
 

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Thank tomko for the rim number for the Orlando. My dealer wants a bend over price. 190 some dollars, the Orlando is strictly Canadian sonor readily available in USA, I did find a used one for 75.00 on the net. I hate buying used unseen
Orlando is no longer available in Canada. Not sure why, but it wasn't exactly the kind of thing you'd take to your local show and shine. IIRC I paid $60 a wheel. Maybe you could source them out of a Canadian dealership to see if the pricing is more reasonable.

I agree on used wheels. They give me the creeps.

I once bought a brand new in the box Cadillac wheel for about half of what I'd normally pay. Looked 100% legit - and I'm a picky SOB sometimes. Well, after just two years of occasional summer use don't you know that the chrome started peeling off that wheel. Whereas the four I bought directly from GM still look brand new to this day. So whoever it was on eBay managed to get a hold of finished product that was rejected by GMSPO QC. I got what I deserved. And so much for saving ~$350. Another lesson learned in life about not really saving money.

Also Gator we're now in spring so it's kind of low season for buying snow tires. What's up with the weather in Columbus?
 

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75 degrees tomorrow just 40 today Tomko, not looking for winter tires. Looking for a spare. Im still running original OEMs and have 106000 miles on them. In the last couple months had to plug a couple of them but there is still at least 50000 miles left on them. So I hate to replace them even though they made it past there wear life.
My question is running one miss matched size on the front could it lead to trans damage. Back no problems
 

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Not sure what your source is but I've personally measured my factory wheels and they are 41mm offset.
I looked at the stamping on the back of the wheel.

This is the back of a Buick Verano wheel. The two cars use the same wheel size as the Cruze diesel is based on the Verano powertrain. You will see something similar on the back of the diesel wheel.

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Regardless, 41 or 44mm - a 3mm difference isn't much. Just a bit more than 3/32".
 

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My question is running one miss matched size on the front could it lead to trans damage.
I have a spare from a 2005 or so Pontiac Grand Prix. Fits just fine - in that it clears the brakes - and is only an inch or so shorter than the Cruze wheel. You should be ok with a difference in wheel size as long you don't go too fast or too far. Thats what differentials are for.

If you need to go fast or far, then swap the flat front for a good back tire and put the spare on the back.
 

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The two cars use the same wheel size as the Cruze diesel is based on the Verano powertrain.
In what way is the Cruze diesel based on the Verano Powertrain?
 
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From what I read, GM wanted the Cruze diesel to be a quiet car so they used the sound deadening technology from the Verano for use on the diesel to help keep it quiet. Apparently the suspension design is part of the sound deadening technology. The Verano has rear disc brakes so we got that when they took the rear suspension from the Verano. I suppose the front hubs are Verano parts too. The two cars are base upon the same platform so the parts are interchangeable. This is why our wheel bolt spacing is 115mm.

Note that the Cruze diesel has a different rear suspension design from the regular Cruze models.

Prior to buying this car, I was looking at the Verano because it was advertised as the quietest car in its class. I like quiet. Further reading led me to the Cruze Diesel where I learned about the common parts. Quiet car plus cool power train was a winner for me.

Check here:
Chevy Cruze Diesel Attracting Buyers With Quiet Engine, Extended Range | Technology content from WardsAuto
and here:
2014 Cruze Diesel: Road Test | GM Authority
 

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As far as I know, the basic design of the Cruze, Cruze TD and Verano suspensions is identical. The cars share the same platform and along with that, the same suspension design (basic struts up front, twist beam trailing arm with separate coils and shocks rear).

The calibration of the suspension between models is what's different. They all have custom shock and spring rates based on weight differences and desired ride characteristics.

The 115mm bolt pattern comes with the heavier vehicle weight and larger front brakes (like the Verano). The way I understand it, the TD was not part of the original Cruze plan and to make it work they used the heavier duty parts from the Verano which has more powerful drive trains and weighs more.

The sound deadening techniques from the Verano were used, absolutely. But I don't think that has anything to do with the suspension design. If it does, it likely doesn't go beyond using softer bushings or something similar.
 

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The Verano spare would work fine. As an aside, I bought a set of 17" Verano wheels from a wrecker for $125 each. It was such a great deal that I wonder if the wrecker didn't know what he had. Mind you, this was a 100 mi drive outside the city. If they were at a place closer to the city, then they could have been double the price.
 
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