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Okay, so I'm fairly new to forums so please don't bash me If I'm doing something wrong here. I recently bought a 2013 Chevy Cruze with an RS package and I'm a little concerned about the RS package. Generally, due to faulty design, cars tend to rust fast in the rocker panel area. I'm saying that as a general term because I know there are other spots that rust out fairly quickly, but I've have bonnevilles and my boyfriend has a zx2 that has rusted the rocker panels completed rusted off. He had read that you can drill a hole in the bottom of the panels to release water in some cases. With the RS package I think I have a higher chance of the rockers just rusting out. Has anyone had problems with this? Is there any cheap solution to keep them looking new and help the resist rusting?

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Okay, so I'm fairly new to forums so please don't bash me If I'm doing something wrong here. I recently bought a 2013 Chevy Cruze with an RS package and I'm a little concerned about the RS package. Generally, due to faulty design, cars tend to rust fast in the rocker panel area. I'm saying that as a general term because I know there are other spots that rust out fairly quickly, but I've have bonnevilles and my boyfriend has a zx2 that has rusted the rocker panels completed rusted off. He had read that you can drill a hole in the bottom of the panels to release water in some cases. With the RS package I think I have a higher chance of the rockers just rusting out. Has anyone had problems with this? Is there any cheap solution to keep them looking new and help the resist rusting?

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I have the rs package as well but I don't think it will rust any more than anything else on the car. Like with anything it comes down to maintenance. If you wash it and take care of it, it should be fine. I personally havent seen rust on the rockers of any of my previous vehicles for me it was always the door and hood seams.

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Sure the RS package might trap a bit more salt/dirt, if that was a concern of mine I would not have bought the RS package. Most GM cars I have seen don't start rusting until 8+ years anyway, by then I will be driving something else.
 

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Okay, so I'm fairly new to forums so please don't bash me If I'm doing something wrong here. I recently bought a 2013 Chevy Cruze with an RS package and I'm a little concerned about the RS package. Generally, due to faulty design, cars tend to rust fast in the rocker panel area. I'm saying that as a general term because I know there are other spots that rust out fairly quickly, but I've have bonnevilles and my boyfriend has a zx2 that has rusted the rocker panels completed rusted off. He had read that you can drill a hole in the bottom of the panels to release water in some cases. With the RS package I think I have a higher chance of the rockers just rusting out. Has anyone had problems with this? Is there any cheap solution to keep them looking new and help the resist rusting?

Thank you!
Paint sealant and a synthetic wax. I'd recommend black fire or Wolfgang 2.0 paint sealant and meguiars ultimate liquid wax. As a professional detailer...paint sealant and wax on a freshly free of rust and other harmful contamination on the paint will increase the longevity of your paint and it will enhance the looks and appearance of it as well. Personally, you want to clay the paint before you apply any of those other things I listed because it ensures proper protection to the paint and helps with how long the wax lasts. Mothers and meguiars makes a great clay bar kit that includes everything you need. And the best part is...it's simple to do for the beginners. :). If you have any other questions please don't hesitate to Private message me on here. Thanks

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Okay, so I'm fairly new to forums so please don't bash me If I'm doing something wrong here. I recently bought a 2013 Chevy Cruze with an RS package and I'm a little concerned about the RS package. Generally, due to faulty design, cars tend to rust fast in the rocker panel area. I'm saying that as a general term because I know there are other spots that rust out fairly quickly, but I've have bonnevilles and my boyfriend has a zx2 that has rusted the rocker panels completed rusted off. He had read that you can drill a hole in the bottom of the panels to release water in some cases. With the RS package I think I have a higher chance of the rockers just rusting out. Has anyone had problems with this? Is there any cheap solution to keep them looking new and help the resist rusting?

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Avoid drilling holes at all costs.
Doing so will cut the anti corrosive coatings around the edge of the hole and create a source point for corrosion.

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Funny you should mention a ZX2, rocker panels were in good shape after the tenth year, but dissolved to nothing at the end of the eleventh year. I think they put some kind of time bomb clock in the metal.

Some dealers offer an undercoating, but if you read the fine print, this undercoating will conflict with the manufacturer's 5 year/100K rust through warranty. And if undercoated, will also be a 5 year/100K warranty. End result, you will be around 500 bucks poorer.

Could buy a pre-1949 year automobile, Detroit was adding nickel to the steel, but quit that in the 1949 models. Claim that was the year the Detroit invented rust. Older vehicles were not immune to surface rust, but that could be sanded, primed and repainted. Was rare to find a vehicle with rust through.

Could request buying a vehicle with a frame underneath, these unibody vehicles are one large piece that has joined that every growing list of throwaway parts. But in this case, the entire body is a throwaway part, requires an extra large size trashcan.


Most of these aftermarket undercoating places went out of business that were drilling holes all over the place and spraying in some kind of gunk. If those holes were not sealed properly created a new form of rust.

Ha, back in the 70's was an argument between powertrain and body engineers. Why should we put in a 200K engine in a vehicle that is going to rust out in three years!

Ha, my new home is already 30 years old, where did the time go? But roughly counting on my fingers, went through at least ten vehicles. Least my home is still worth a couple of bucks, and they actually had the nerve to say your vehicle was your second greatest investment. How can they even use the word investment with any automobile?

Maybe good for the stockholders, but not for us.
 

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About all you can do is wash under the car along the rockers as best as you can to remove salt and dirt build up. The RS has extra holes in the rocker panels for the plastic retainers. This is the main reason I did not purchase a RS package, I liked everything else.
 

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Thanks for the reply! I didn't even think about it when I bought my car because I totaled mine and wanted something fast and didn't mind paying extra for the RS package that makes the car look better (well to me anyway). My boyfriend brought up the issue later, and I hadn't even thought of it! I will try to keep it maintained well, but unfortunately I live in Michigan so it gets covered in salt, plus I live on a dirt road, so it's kind of worrisome! Thanks again for the advice.
 

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I had just totaled my 2005 Mazda 6 and was using my dad's '89 Chevy Truck that wasn't very pleasant or safe to drive so I wanted to get into a new car fast. I didn't think about the RS package until after I had bought the car.
 

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Thanks for the reply. I didn't know that they put extra holes in. I kind of figured that they did, but I was concerned when we got to talking about my boyfriend's zx2 that is completely rusted out. My 2005 Mazda I paid $6000 for it and it had heated leather seats, a 5 speed, factory body kit, you name it. It was a beautiful car. So when I saw the RS package I jumped on it because it made the car look better and since I was already signing my life away I figured an extra $1,600 wouldn't make that much of a difference!
 

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Thank you for the article, it was worth the read. It definitely eased my mind some!

GM has really made the Cruze one of their vehicles where one of the focuses was to reduce corrosion as much as possible. Seems they are using the Cruze as a staple for an anti-corrosion vehicle design if you will. Here is some food for thought...


Forensic Science Makes for Longer-Living Chevy Cruze
 

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Thank you, I really appreciate the tips! I am sure I will be getting a hold of you on applying the wax and such, because I am a newbee! Thanks for the help and offer of help in the future!

Paint sealant and a synthetic wax. I'd recommend black fire or Wolfgang 2.0 paint sealant and meguiars ultimate liquid wax. As a professional detailer...paint sealant and wax on a freshly free of rust and other harmful contamination on the paint will increase the longevity of your paint and it will enhance the looks and appearance of it as well. Personally, you want to clay the paint before you apply any of those other things I listed because it ensures proper protection to the paint and helps with how long the wax lasts. Mothers and meguiars makes a great clay bar kit that includes everything you need. And the best part is...it's simple to do for the beginners. :). If you have any other questions please don't hesitate to Private message me on here. Thanks

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Thank you for the tip, I didn't even think about that! I definitely don't want to make my car worse!!

Avoid drilling holes at all costs.
Doing so will cut the anti corrosive coatings around the edge of the hole and create a source point for corrosion.

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Grew up in a country where if a vehicle hit 000,000 on the odometer, was worthless, even a very well taken care of vehicle. Could pick up a nice Hudson, or whatever for around 20 bucks. But this is where kicking the tires came into play, could even find one is almost brand new tires on it for 20 bucks.

Simple to overhaul the engines, less than a week end job, even pulling the engine and having a shop do an acid job on it. Complete overhaul gasket set was under four bucks. With a really nice 48 Plymouth coupe with a light rod knock in the engine. Just went to my wrecking yard and pick up a complete 54 Dodge truck engine with only 12K miles on it and dropped it in, in a couple hours. If a fuel pump went bad, cost a buck for a rebuilt kit to make your old one like new, and was about a 20 minute job.

Compare this with a Cruze fuel pump for 250 bucks and an all day job to replace it.

Without writing a book on this subject, point is, when a new car starts to rust, will also have mechanical problems as well, not only that fuel pump, but a whole bunch of stuff will need to be replaced.

IRS is no help, want to charge full retail price for inventory, that is considered as profit that has to be added to the selling price of part. Wasn't this way years ago. Neither is the EPA, want us to build cars that are easier to recycle, and get this older stuff off the road.

Even if you do all the work yourself with a bushell basket full of parts, can cost almost as much as a brand new car. And with unibody rust, may think you will get your money back by if your body is in good shape, but in a year or two, will be a pile of rust.

So not only rust problems, but mechanical problems as well, and can't even make out if you do all the work yourself.

With shop rates the way they are now, you are paying this with post tax dollars, slap that on your CC with 18% interest, you are paying three times as much for repairs. Plus the parts.

This is how this country has changed. Without a car, try to earn a living, but that transportation expense to go to work is not tax deductible. So getting nailed in this respect as well.
 

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Just checked out the pictures in your album.
I like the combo you purchased, very nice color, manual trans and 1LT package.:smile:
Wash, wax and wear. Enjoy the new car!

With gravel roads the RS package will shield the sides of the car a little better from stone chips.
 

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With gravel roads the RS package will shield the sides of the car a little better from stone chips.
I have quite a few stone chips on my RS, mostly in front of rear wheel like everyone else. Got one below driver mirror the first day owning the cruze driving on a gravel road.
 

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Gave my stepdaughter my 04 Cavalier, its ten years old already. Was parked on Milwaukee streets sprayed with salt and also at a university for the last two years. Still rust free!!!!

If the Cruze is made as well as this car, shouldn't have to worry about rust.

Loved flying down to Phoenix, in my spare time, would look at used cars, classic cars at that, that were perfectly rust free. To do this in Wisconsin, have to go to that Iola car show to see anything that is over 15 years old.
 

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It's all about maintenance.

I live in the Northeast (AKA - The Rust Belt) My previous car was a 2005 Pontiac Grand Prix. I owned it for 8.5 years and traded it in with 198k on the clock. At the time I traded it in, it had ZERO rust on the rockers and the door sills. The only rust that I had, which was surface rust was on the pinch welds.

It's just a matter of keeping the car clean and checking the weep holes that are already in the door and rockers. Make sure the are not clogged with any debris. Standing water is what causes the rockers to rust. They typically rust from the inside out.
 

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With seven kids in college, Stevens Point, Milwaukee, and Madison salt ridden roads. These are the same conditions for cars that did not fair very well as the Cavalier.

1989 Plymouth Horizon, 1984 Honda Accord, 1984 Nissan Maxim, 1986 Honda Civic, 1990 Ford Thunderbird, 1993 Olds Bravada, and that 1998 Ford Escort ZX2. All were driven to the wrecking yard due to severe rust, except the ZX2, POS plastic idler pulley broke with a timing belt. Was going to replace it, but when I jacked the front end up, this car bent.

Kids were or I should say was screwed blind by paying a small fortune for these dumpy apartments the local robbers were taking. Left side of these vehicles were far worse than the right side exposed to salt trucks. And were forced to park their cars in the street.

I could take my Cruze to the car wash right now, but they no longer plow to the road, plows are doing way too much road damage. So they just salt them. If I did take my Cruze to the car wash, would be just as dirty when I brought it back home.

They claim salt saves lives, BS to this when your brakes are rusted shut.

When it warms that salt dssolves and seeps into cracks in the roads. Refreezes and lift huge slabs of concrete, but studded snows tires were blamed for this. Can't tell this to the city council, county, nor state. But haven't concluded yet if they are morons or getting kick backs from road construction companies.

That is another issue, car gets damaged in construction areas with uncovered dump trucks flying around all over the place and loose gravel or wet sticky stones as I call them.

Then they have the nerve to put up double fines in men working areas. More like a bunch of guys standing around doing nothing.

Then the EPA and other environmental groups suing the DOT for disturbing some kind of a worm or bug in the ground. Recently had a railroad overpass put in our town. Cost to the taxpayers was suppose to be a million bucks. But the court cost for these two agencies cost us taxpayers two million bucks before they could reach a settlement.

This is unbelievable. Then very careful excavation to watch out for garter snakes. Each had to be collected, stored in a box, and put back. No under why are infrastructure is going to pot. Not to mention our vehicles.
 
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