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The car, 2015 Base model Kia a Soul, purchased it last year before the 2016's came out, price was nice, $13,000.00, but still had to pay an extra 900 buck sales tax on it. Has that same rubber strip on the roof line as the Cruze, but with four rubber plugs to firmly attach roof racks. She has a carrier for it, not shown to really haul a bunch of stuff. She is a camper and a rock climber.

Didn't have cruise, but to add it the plate was 15 bucks, just unsnapped the old one, plugged in the new one with switches, works like the Cruze, can push buttons to increase or decrease speed, indicators on the dash. Would be nice for LS owners. Could have soldered in two extra wires, but to keep it stock, paid 40 bucks for a harness, was her birthday present. Does have a six speaker system, hands free calls, but she uses her smart phone for music, Cruze radio is better. Also TPMS, ABS, traction control, bunch of air bags, all that stuff required by law, AC, six speed manual.

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Not a very good photo, but a very heavy fram under those lines.

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In front of these frame you find this, that circle in the grill.

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The plug pops out and you can screw this thing into it, stored in the spare tire compartment.

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A tow hook strong enough to pull this thing out of a ditch, really wish our Cruze's had this, also handy for a tiedown.

One other minor feature this vehicles has that the Cruze lacks, is a full 60,000 mile/five year bumper to bumper warranty, PT is the same as the Cruze.

Car is about 16 inches shorter than the Cruze, mostly taken off the hood, plenty of space for five passengers and junk in the real compartment. Something like a baby SUV. Won't comment on the looks, she loves it, and a very practical kind of vehicle, highway mpg is more in the 32-33 mpg range, Cruze tops this. 1.6L non-turbo engine.
 

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One other minor feature this vehicles has that the Cruze lacks, is a full 60,000 mile/five year bumper to bumper warranty, PT is the same as the Cruze.
Because it's a Kia. The public may not be as confident in how long it will last, so it needs the warranty to sell and build a name.
 

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They are a great car a few of our Neighbors own that model. Yes the tow hook is nice since when having the Cruze towed if they do a bad hookup to the flatbed they just may bend stuff. If only GM would extend the warranty but GM his making $$ on repairs after 3/36 once your A/C goes or you need to have your dash removed for Heater core replacement like our friend just had that core next to your gas pedal area is always hot. With a 5/60 warranty the Cruze would have been made better since GM would be paying for all the problems as they happen after 36,000.
 

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1% US/Canada content, final assembly in Korea. :th_down:
Ha, didn't say I was going to buy one, may even swipe some of that good stuff when she is not looking. South Korea? We have been defending them for the last 64 years. Our ship industry in Wisconsin on Lake Michigan is history, all built in South Korea now, thousands of jobs were lost.

Seoul makes our downtowns look like a dump, as well as our manufacturing plants, everything there is new and modern, zero tariff charges. We should make South Korea a state so we could tax them like we are taxed. But the people their would never vote for it, because, because of us, they have it very good.

One of my nieces is working there, only place she could find a good job after college. Youngest daughter purchased hers on her own, Cheapest thing she could find with the best warranty. Oh, and as opposed to the LS, does have a timing chain, not a rubber band. Not a really bad vehicle to drive, took it for a test ride. MT and clutch is real smooth, not as quiet as the Cruze, but sure a lot better than other vehicles.
 

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Sadly, it would probably win a race against a Cruze too.

Not a good sounding motor, but it's peppy.
 

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Ha, didn't say I was going to buy one, may even swipe some of that good stuff when she is not looking. South Korea? We have been defending them for the last 64 years. Our ship industry in Wisconsin on Lake Michigan is history, all built in South Korea now, thousands of jobs were lost.
I know you wouldn't buy one, Nick. I just wanted to point out one big negative (for some of us) that you omitted!
 

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My experience with a rental Kia wasn't pleasant. The interior isn't nearly as nice, and it just seems louder and squeakier.
 

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Are you sure the tow hook isn't just a happy benefit from having to ship the cars over here? The real purpose is for a tie down for the ocean voyage. Since the Cruze is made in NA, it doesn't travel by ship.
 
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She wants to carry a kayak on top of her Soul, we looked at seven different store bought units. All require a front and rear tie down strap, practically all new vehicles only have 3 mm plastic up front, nothing to strap them to.
 

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Because it's a Kia. The public may not be as confident in how long it will last, so it needs the warranty to sell and build a name.
GM did the opposite and pulled back on their warranty stating they don't need it because they build things so well and it's not needed. As mine sits at the dealer getting a new manual trans at 52k and new intake and valve cover a few weeks back.
 

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So many of those cars around here, must be very cheap, gets about 7MPG less on the highway than my very similar Chevy Sonic hatchback.
 

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Well, at least since my daughter purchased one, always telling her to save her soul.
it'll be bad when you have to say someone stole her soul ... LOL
Oh, wait ... it's a Kia Soul, will most likely never be stolen.
 
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Been brainwashed as a kid that the devil is trying to steal my soul. As I grew older, started to doubt this, but even older, sure they exist, but calling themselves dealers now.

Soul does have a full under engine cover, daughter was watching me stress all those plastic parts and was concerned I was going to break something. Just told her, I know when to stop, trying to find something solid, but stuck out. They are all like this today, just be darn careful you don't hit anything at 0.001 mph.
 

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Are you sure the tow hook isn't just a happy benefit from having to ship the cars over here? The real purpose is for a tie down for the ocean voyage. Since the Cruze is made in NA, it doesn't travel by ship.
My Cruze has a panel in the bumper that opens so you can insert a tow hook and it is even explained in the owners manual how to use it.

Site won't let me post a picture.
 

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Tried a fresh post and still can't get a picture in.
 

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My Cruze has a panel in the bumper that opens so you can insert a tow hook and it is even explained in the owners manual how to use it.

Site won't let me post a picture.
Sounds like other countries have leaders with brains, something badly missing in the USA.
 

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Believe it or not, the KDM game is strong these days. Hyundai/Kia of today is nothing like it was even 10+ years ago. Engine setups that are reliable, quality that isn't last priority and looks that don't embarrass. The warranty is just icing on the cake.
 

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Harborfreight has this thing on sale this weekend for 250 bucks.



Folds up like this for easy storage.



Thinking about buying one of these, can easily tie down 2 or 3 kayaks to it. Least it has some metal to tie things to, don't see metal in our vehicles anymore.

Do have some rubber coated U shaped clips with a slot for straps. Though about using the fender wells or the hood, but figured if the wind hits the kayak the wrong or right way, those fenders or hoods would have dents in them.

Ha, trying to think outside of the box, but they way they are making vehicles today, sure have us boxed in.
 
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