[Nightmistx22]

XR,

Planning out this build I will have a little extra money I feel would be best served putting my sub in a better box. It currently sits in a .7 cu/ft custom fiberglass box for the RX8 I used to own. If you could, please model out a box so I could get the best Sq out of my JBL P1022.

 

[Nightmistx22]

Just ordered the miniDSP 2x4 and downloaded the 2way advanced software for it. It's a pretty intuitive piece of software.

 

[Nightmistx22]

Sweet. Just got my Vifa (Peerless) tweeters in today. Looks like I might need to cut away some material from the front to get them in the stock tweeter location. Is that what everyone else did that installed these tweeters?

 

[XtremeRevolution]

Sweet. Just got my Vifa (Peerless) tweeters in today. Looks like I might need to cut away some material from the front to get them in the stock tweeter location. Is that what everyone else did that installed these tweeters?

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Yep, just file away that faceplate till it fits just right. Shouldn't take too long at all. Depth won't be an issue.

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[Nightmistx22]

Anyone have an idea if and where the stock radio starts to clip? With the stock speakers in I usually keep it below 30. 22-25 is my norm. Loud enough to put life back into the sound but not loud enough to hurt my ears.

 

[Nightmistx22]

Just got my miniDSP in today. It's smaller than I expected. Just need to order my sound deadening and wait for those 6.5" Silver Flutes to come back in stock then I can get this build underway.

In other news I decided I want to give a shot at some DIY home speakers... I'm thinking the Orient Express.

 

[XtremeRevolution]

Just got my miniDSP in today. It's smaller than I expected. Just need to order my sound deadening and wait for those 6.5" Silver Flutes to come back in stock then I can get this build underway.

In other news I decided I want to give a shot at some DIY home speakers... I'm thinking the Orient Express.

I've built Paul's Overnight Sensations MTM. Great speaker, I use them for blasting music in the garage and my wife complains of how loud it is...in the living room. I don't think you can go wrong with any of Paul's designs.

 

[Nightmistx22]

I'm debating between the OS MTM or the OE... I'm leaning towards the OE because 1) I am really liking those darn silver flutes. 2) my onkyo HTIAB is only 8ohm stable.

Really want to build me a pair of those Statement Monitors but I feel I should get my feet wet with something like the OS MTM or OE first.

 

[XtremeRevolution]

I'm debating between the OS MTM or the OE... I'm leaning towards the OE because 1) I am really liking those darn silver flutes. 2) my onkyo HTIAB is only 8ohm stable.

Really want to build me a pair of those Statement Monitors but I feel I should get my feet wet with something like the OS MTM or OE first.

Yeah, the statement monitors are not a beginner's design, nor are they cheap to build. I regret that I have them stored under the desk in my home office. With a 3.5 and a 1.5 year old running around, I couldn't risk them sticking something through the tweeter and having to blow $250 on a new pair (they only sell them in pairs). Not kid friendly speakers, at least not until I get some covers on the front.

For home use, I REALLY like the TangBand W5-704D. It is one of the smoothest drivers I've ever heard. I designed a pair of TMs with it, using another Vifa tweeter with a large faceplate. They're incredibly smooth overall with very low listening fatigue.

 

[Nightmistx22]

Yeah, the statement monitors are not a beginner's design, nor are they cheap to build. I regret that I have them stored under the desk in my home office. With a 3.5 and a 1.5 year old running around, I couldn't risk them sticking something through the tweeter and having to blow $250 on a new pair (they only sell them in pairs). Not kid friendly speakers, at least not until I get some covers on the front.

For home use, I REALLY like the TangBand W5-704D. It is one of the smoothest drivers I've ever heard. I designed a pair of TMs with it, using another Vifa tweeter with a large faceplate. They're incredibly smooth overall with very low listening fatigue.

Hmmm.. going to need to look up that TB driver.
I have a 5, 3 year and 7 month old to deal with. They already pushed in the domes on the tweeters of my onkyo 2way speakers.

I keep going back and forth on the OS and OE... I was thinking on possibly using the Vifa BC25SC in place of the AC25SG that is discontinued. But to do it properly I would need to invest in something like the umik-1 so I could work up a new crossover for that tweeter.

Think I'll just get an OS MTM kit for my first go.

 

[XtremeRevolution]

Let me know if you want to build the ones I designed and I can get you the schematics. The TB driver is great as the dome isn't easy to push in.

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[Nightmistx22]

Sure, I'll look them over. Not sure when I will be able to get around to building any of these DIY speakers...

What program do you use to model out a sub box? I remember seeing it another thread but I cant't seem to remember where.

 

[JerryGash]

Nightmist,

It sounds like we are pretty much working on the same project. I am trying to keep costs down though so I may end up using a few components I already own instead of buying new. My wife is pretty happy with her new car. She wants a better sounding stereo but if I go nuts with the budget all that happiness will surely turn into rage. LOL

I just ordered the miniDSP stuff and the VIFA tweeters a few minutes ago. Hopefully those Silver Flutes come in stock when they say they are.

Good luck with your build!

 

[Nightmistx22]

Nightmist,

It sounds like we are pretty much working on the same project. I am trying to keep costs down though so I may end up using a few components I already own instead of buying new. My wife is pretty happy with her new car. She wants a better sounding stereo but if I go nuts with the budget all that happiness will surely turn into rage. LOL

I just ordered the miniDSP stuff and the VIFA tweeters a few minutes ago. Hopefully those Silver Flutes come in stock when they say they are.

Good luck with your build!

Jerry,

Glad to hear your on a similar mission. I think this setup will sound awesome once complete. Good things come to those who wait... or so I'm told.

I just sent the SDS crew an email to see how much material for sound deadening they recommend. I plan on doing just the front doors with CCF and MLV and sticking CLD tiles throughout the doors and trunk to keep costs down. As soon as I get a reply I'll post it here.

Most of my "savings" with this build is from reusing my amps and sub from my previous setup. So far I have spent about $150 on this build and should come in around $400 when all said and done.

 

[JerryGash]

Jerry,

Glad to hear your on a similar mission. I think this setup will sound awesome once complete. Good things come to those who wait... or so I'm told.

I just sent the SDS crew an email to see how much material for sound deadening they recommend. I plan on doing just the front doors with CCF and MLV and sticking CLD tiles throughout the doors and trunk to keep costs down. As soon as I get a reply I'll post it here.

Most of my "savings" with this build is from reusing my amps and sub from my previous setup. So far I have spent about $150 on this build and should come in around $400 when all said and done.

Definitely let me know, that's exactly what I was wanting to do.

What are your plans for speaker ring adapters? I know I've seen XR mention maybe busting a few sets out but if not are there any alternatives?

I don't own a router but I have a friend who has a pretty slick woodworking shop that has a pretty sweet router table setup. If I had the dimensions I'll bet I could get a few pumped out with some trial and error.

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[Nightmistx22]

Jerry,

I was hoping to get a set from XR if he is making them. The only alternatives I am currently aware of are some crappy plastic ones by metra or scosche.

Just got an email from Don at SDS. Here is what he is recommending.

37 CLD Tiles™ @ 2.25 = $83.25
1 roll Extruded Butyl Rope @ 9.75 = 9.75
35 linear inches MLV @ .93 = 32.55
2 sheets 1/8" CCF @ 16.35 = 32.70
5 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides @ 1.63 = 8.15
1 8 oz can HH-66 Vinyl Contact Cement @ 9.50 = 9.50

Sub Total: $175.90

XR,

Please let us know if you would make us some baffles or if not post a schematic of them so we could make them(or have them made).

 

[XtremeRevolution]

I'll be able to make a batch toward the end of this month or early next.

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[JerryGash]

I'll be able to make a batch toward the end of this month or early next.

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Your the man! Definitely interested in a set!

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[JerryGash]

Jerry,

I was hoping to get a set from XR if he is making them. The only alternatives I am currently aware of are some crappy plastic ones by metra or scosche.

Just got an email from Don at SDS. Here is what he is recommending.

37 CLD Tiles™ @ 2.25 = $83.25
1 roll Extruded Butyl Rope @ 9.75 = 9.75
35 linear inches MLV @ .93 = 32.55
2 sheets 1/8" CCF @ 16.35 = 32.70
5 Velcro Strips, adhesive 2 sides @ 1.63 = 8.15
1 8 oz can HH-66 Vinyl Contact Cement @ 9.50 = 9.50

Sub Total: $175.90

XR,

Please let us know if you would make us some baffles or if not post a schematic of them so we could make them(or have them made).

That's not so bad. I've never messed with sound deadening or dampening before but after I did the last install in my Jeep Grand Cherokee I quickly realized I completely dropped the ball by not doing it. Between all the rattling and road noise adding aftermarket speakers turned out to be a complete waste of money and effort.

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[Nightmistx22]

I have never used any sound deadening/ vibration dampening before either, and for me it's the most expensive part of my build. But from what I have read it is well worth the investment.