[twin1987]

It will be interesting to see where the Mazda 6 Skyactiv-D comes priced at and with what options. I honestly never expected a $26k Cruze diesel. Even if the upgrades are theoretically worth it, it's just too much money for not enough car. The base Mazda 6 auto starts at $22k and uses no extra injections or burn off after treatments so I expect the car to be slimmer on the price increase for diesel. The fact that they don't have to redesign the trunk like in the Cruze and assorted other changes means a cheaper switch. Without that tax credit, the Cruze diesel is a no go for me when I expect the Mazda 6 diesel to be available for a similar price. The 6 is more car for the money, has the promise of increased fuel efficiency over the Cruze, and less added parts to have to refill or chance failure. Two other glaring differences are 148hp vs 173hp and 280lb/ft (for 10 seconds only) vs 310lb/ft all the time and the 6 is 200 pounds lighter somehow while being 7 inches longer.

Mazda is a riskier company so they may even allow the diesel with a manual transmission. That will be a deal sealer for many including me.

If they bring that motor over to the states, you can bet it will have either DPF or DEF, possibly both...

 

[twin1987]

No, it actually won't. It is already clean enough without after treatments.

Hmm....Interesting.....link??? Clean enough for overseas, or clean enough for the states? From what I understand there is a big difference.

You would think if that was the case, and you could pass withouth the after treatments, that there would be more motors that are able to. No big rig or pickup trucks that I know of are able to do this. You would think a company like Cummins who has been at this since the beginning of time would be able to do this. The rig I drive for work has the Cummins ISX 15L, and it uses both DEF and DPF (yes we have had DEF system problems 2 times already with parts having to be replaced. Got the dreaded red Engine Stop light and it shut down on us, thank god we were only half a mile from the ryder shop! 2013 Cascadia with 32k miles.....piece of junk).

But if this is true than that is great, but I just believe it will end up with one or both of them. Time will tell.

 

[twin1987]

Very interesting, thanks for the input! Like my wise grandpa always said, you learn something every day!!!