Trifecta tune group buy for 1.4T and 1.8 engines

handofgod said:

Merc, the cable is not being included free in this group buy, per Jerry's pricing.

tune 315
+cable 150
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total 465

465 - 15 % =395.00

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That's disappointing. Seems like this deal isn't really that good vs. even a free cable deal.
Do people ever borrow cables from each other to save a little cash?

nybble said:

A deal is a deal. I wouldn't complain. Still getting it cheaper then you would have on your own.

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Two ways to look at it
1) Cheaper than the price I didn't purchase it at (partially because of the price)
2) More expensive than prior deals and comments in this thread (the anticipated price when I expressed interest)


I'm not complaining. I respect their right to charge whatever they want. As the other side of the transaction I also have the right not to pay it if I choose.

I'm also not saying it's a bad deal, just not the one I was expecting. It might not be enough to make me pull the trigger. I'll have to reconsider once we get closer to a quorum on the deal.

Nano-Skiff said:

I heard if we get more than 25 then the entire thing is free!

:sarcasm:

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I'm pretty sure that if we get more than 70 it also comes with a free taco.

Merc6 said:

Make note you are using 91 octane in the order.

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I'm about to pull the trigger on this, but what does this comment mean? 91 as opposed to 93 or 87?
Also, and this looks to be new for the October update, but it looks like the tune has mappings to compensate for different octanes dynamically? Am I understanding that right?

mykalcruze said:

Am I the only one that thinks it's highly unlikely we'll hit 35, and they should just start shipping tomorrow?

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I just bumped it up to 21! So there's hope if (as some speculated) Friday paydays drive sales! I'm not sure it's clear whether there's still a second discount tier for 35, though.

It's all over but the wait. Hopefully this lives up to all the hype. I have been happy with the Cruze so far as a mile-eater, I'm expecting this will make it just a little more fun.

mskrutsi said:

Agreed, I was hoping to have something after ordering just about 2 weeks ago. I have spoken to BNR twice as well and recieved the same responses. Slighty frustrating, though I can understand a delay due to a bulk sale as so, but some more communication would be great.

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I'm being pretty patient about it, it's not like it's an emergency, but it would have been nice to know going in that it would take 3-4 weeks or whatever it ends up taking. A no B/S update would also be nice.

Shipping notice here as well ... I guess it's party-time.

bL1Nd said:

No one can really comment yet, with the lack of select a tune, some of us (myself) are uneasy about this purchase. I cant have my car going into bat **** crazy mode when Im driving in a blizzard....

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I don't think I'll get around to tuning this weekend, so I'm looking forward to everyone's feedback. I did like the idea of switching between "modes." It's a simple idea that offers a level of control that I liked. Hopefully everybody likes the new alternate ... I'm skeptical but open-minded and looking forward to seeing the early-adopters' opinions.

I have some free time today, so I think I'm going to give this a shot. I'm a little nervous, since it seems unclear exactly what I'm doing to my car and what results I should expect.

I was glad to find that there was plenty of documentation on the flashing process between the web page, an email, a PDF, and even a youtube video. I feel comfortable with the process now, but am not comfortable with what to expect as a result.

Jerry, is there some sort of documentation you/trifecta can provide to kind of show exactly what's going on? Just some sort of 3-5 page PDF would good. Document the performance/MPG impacts (i.e. show sample before/after dino's, average MPG on similar runs, 0-60 times). Document any changes (i.e. approximate increases in boost, changes in auto shift patterns). Document any features (i.e. PAL/PAS, select-a-tune, any changes to what buttons/gear selectors do). This should be fairly straight forward with the amount of testing you claim on this tune.

freebeer said:

Yeah, I'm not going to lie. I ordered a select-a-tune, so that is what I was expecting. The power is a nice feature to be able to use, but if I'm being honest, the reason I got this car was for gas mileage. If this tune hurts the mileage, I will absolutely be returning it for a refund.

Edit: I feel like it might sound like I'm being dramatic, but all the reviews on this site, and elsewhere say that the "eco" mode either improves gas mileage or at least keeps it the same. They also added that the shifting was improved in eco mode. This is really what I was interested in, and why I purchased a select-a-tune. I drive many 8+ hour trips a year, and a hit on gas mileage simply can't happen.

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This seems to be a common sentiment. I'm not against the idea of PAL, but I don't understand how it is supposed to replace the need for an eco tune. I think two separate mappings was appealing to a lot of us. At the very least, we need more information.

I used 'Trifecta Cable Drivers.exe'

Blue_RS said:

Maybe we should start a petition and email it to bnr since they arent responding here.

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I was willing to part with my money partly based on the BNR reputation around here for customer service. In my opinion they have not really lived up to that reputation from the start of this group buy. I'm sure they're nice people, maybe they've gotten too big too fast and need to hire. The biggest breach is obviously the bait and switch on the select-a-tune and poor communication on what we actually got. Hopefully they re-open the dialog and we can figure this all out.

SitDownPro said:

This seems to have got hot in here fast. This type of tuning is budget tuning already, not to mention the big order. BNR is still a business, they do what they can to provide for their customers.

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I'm not speaking for everyone, but I haven't given up on BNR yet. I am a little frustrated. I think we all understand this is a good deal and a big batch, but ~$400 is not insignificant and more importantly we're trusting them with a ~$20k car that is probably our primary transportation. They got this business because this forum trusts them. It seems like that trust is wearing a little thin with this communication breakdown.

I'm OK that it took weeks to get the tune/cable, as long as they are open about it (they sort of were). I'm OK if it takes time to review log files as long as they are open about it (they are). What I'm not OK with is lack of communication about what is included in our tune and how it works and lack of support for those with serious issues.

det said:

I'm not speaking for everyone, but I haven't given up on BNR yet. I am a little frustrated. I think we all understand this is a good deal and a big batch, but ~$400 is not insignificant and more importantly we're trusting them with a ~$20k car that is probably our primary transportation. They got this business because this forum trusts them. It seems like that trust is wearing a little thin with this communication breakdown.

I'm OK that it took weeks to get the tune/cable, as long as they are open about it (they sort of were). I'm OK if it takes time to review log files as long as they are open about it (they are). What I'm not OK with is lack of communication about what is included in our tune and how it works and lack of support for those with serious issues.

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The tl;dr version: Yeah, we're negative a bit, but not disastrously. Everything can be fixed with some open communication.