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Was finishing the install on my ambient leds, I finish placing them, cool...

Time to fix the flicker when I turn my headlights, I tap onto the white connector in the passenger side footwell, I find my constant 12v, bingo, flicker gone.

4 mins in I'm assembling the trim pieces back, leds go dead, I get my tester, cable is dead "well, maybe I turned something on/off so maybe its not 12v..." HA
I tap the adjacent red cable, start assembling again, leds go dead, same thought...

I recheck all connections just in case it's a loose cable, whoops some electrician tape moved a bit and 2 cables were grounding with some metal "[email protected]#$"

I finish assembling, test everything, all working, "Well I'm hungry, gonna go get a Pizza", turn on the car, turn on the headlights, leds work, I move my hand to switch to drive, stick won't budge, also left headlight is fried.

I think I even insulted in Dog, car won't move because the stick won't change gears, fixing the issue is probably gonna cost a lot and I'll have to wait until like Jan 15th until my dealer starts working again until they can start to get it fixed...

Oh, that's not the worst part, my grandma (she bought me the car) saw me, as she says "moving cables around" (she's the one that think cars come perfect from factory and moving a cable will make it explode); I don't know how to tell her I fried the gearbox, and I'm sure when I do, she'll kill me, R.I.P me... I can only go to sleep and hope the thing... Unfries itself...

Good thing is, I won't have to go to work tomorrow, yay
 

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Sounds like you blew a fuse or shorted the wire that unlocks the shifter, which is connected to the ignition. You should be able to figure out what went wrong.

That said, manual transmission FTW. No shifter/solenoid nonsense.

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Sounds like you blew a fuse or shorted the wire that unlocks the shifter, which is connected to the ignition. You should be able to figure out what went wrong.

That said, manual transmission FTW. No shifter/solenoid nonsense.

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IT WAS 2 FUSES, 2 BCM fuses got fried, holy moly was I scared... I always forget about the fuses, it always comes to my mind "well, you broke the thing", happened with a friends car too while I was helping him fix his headlight "well, it's probably the bulb that died", nope, a fuse, guess I'll find the headlight fuse tomorrow morning, or just hope it's connected to the BCM fuse too, but man, it's horrible going through this, sucks for me to be inexperienced with these kind of things, but I'm sure it happens to everyone :p

That being said, yes, Manual is so much fun! I miss being able to control my gears with the responsiveness an Auto will never get; sadly we only got the Cruze in 1 trim and it's only Auto, but thankfully it's really smooth and comfortable... Until it downshifts...
 

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Taping into wires that you have no idea do what is a dangerous game to play, especially these days where EVERYTHING is electronically controlled.

Most, if not all cars have SOME type of aux. fuse location. I don't know if the cruze has one. But you should really look to see what you're tapping into before you throw a crappy vampire splice and electrical tape on it and call it a day.

Also, always stagger your splices, so you don't have two touch by mistake...
 

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Taping into wires that you have no idea do what is a dangerous game to play, especially these days where EVERYTHING is electronically controlled.

Most, if not all cars have SOME type of aux. fuse location. I don't know if the cruze has one. But you should really look to see what you're tapping into before you throw a crappy vampire splice and electrical tape on it and call it a day.

Also, always stagger your splices, so you don't have two touch by mistake...
Red cable, tester lights up even with the car off, must be 12v right? Of course it is, found the diagram for the white bcm pin and it is, the yellow cable in the black pin light up the tester when I turn the headlight switch? Yup, definitely headlight control.

But yeah, while I also made some mistakes I'm sure theres not a fuse for "headlamp" but rather for the bcm connector that the headlights are wired to, so I'm not sure if tapping into the bcm fuse would be the right thing to do lol... But boy do I love the wire stripper my friend lent me.

I just hope it's the fuses and no the cables or something else, other cables in the same bcm connector work but the 3 ones where I had a short circuit don't :/ Oh well, I have to learn in some way...
 

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IT WAS 2 FUSES, 2 BCM fuses got fried, holy moly was I scared... I always forget about the fuses, it always comes to my mind "well, you broke the thing", happened with a friends car too while I was helping him fix his headlight "well, it's probably the bulb that died", nope, a fuse, guess I'll find the headlight fuse tomorrow morning, or just hope it's connected to the BCM fuse too, but man, it's horrible going through this, sucks for me to be inexperienced with these kind of things, but I'm sure it happens to everyone :p

That being said, yes, Manual is so much fun! I miss being able to control my gears with the responsiveness an Auto will never get; sadly we only got the Cruze in 1 trim and it's only Auto, but thankfully it's really smooth and comfortable... Until it downshifts...
Haha, well there you go. Looks like GM was pretty smart about this car when they put it together. **** near everything has a fuse on it, haha. Well, I'm glad you figured it out. The headlight shouldn't be a problem as it's probably a fuse as well.

The Cruze is quite a lot of fun with a manual. It's unfortunate you don't have that option down there. In any case, I'm looking forward to seeing some pictures of what you went through this trouble for.
 

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Haha, well there you go. Looks like GM was pretty smart about this car when they put it together. **** near everything has a fuse on it, haha. Well, I'm glad you figured it out. The headlight shouldn't be a problem as it's probably a fuse as well.

The Cruze is quite a lot of fun with a manual. It's unfortunate you don't have that option down there. In any case, I'm looking forward to seeing some pictures of what you went through this trouble for.
Yeah, that's what I thought too, thanks GM for making this car newbie and unexperienced proof :p guess I'll start using in-line fuses for everything now.

Car is running up perfectly now, after a 15 mins search I found the fuses in a gas pump, almost every other place here is closed in this date, people are very lazy here, they take vacation whenever possible and as long as they can.

It really was just changing 2 fuses near the drivers side fuse box, but I also checked the engine fuse box just in case, checked everything that ended in "M" that could possibly mean module, lol.

I was going to do a writeup about how Bosch Relays work, uses, etc... And about my LEDs install, 2 weeks ago my iPhone fell from 1 feet, landed flat on the screen, oops the lcd screen got damaged, phone is intact, guess no photos or write-up until next year when I can get a new one :/

But just as a head ups for anyone, if you short circuit a cable from the BCM, the fuse will obviously get fried, BCM 6 and 7 fuses are on the engine fuse box I think, only the thing that feeds through the cable you fried will not work but everything else will.
 

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Yeah, that's what I thought too, thanks GM for making this car newbie and unexperienced proof :p guess I'll start using in-line fuses for everything now.

Car is running up perfectly now, after a 15 mins search I found the fuses in a gas pump, almost every other place here is closed in this date, people are very lazy here, they take vacation whenever possible and as long as they can.

It really was just changing 2 fuses near the drivers side fuse box, but I also checked the engine fuse box just in case, checked everything that ended in "M" that could possibly mean module, lol.

I was going to do a writeup about how Bosch Relays work, uses, etc... And about my LEDs install, 2 weeks ago my iPhone fell from 1 feet, landed flat on the screen, oops the lcd screen got damaged, phone is intact, guess no photos or write-up until next year when I can get a new one :/

But just as a head ups for anyone, if you short circuit a cable from the BCM, the fuse will obviously get fried, BCM 6 and 7 fuses are on the engine fuse box I think, only the thing that feeds through the cable you fried will not work but everything else will.
An in-line fuse? Huh? How does that fix what you did? You grounded two wires together because some "electrical tape slipped". An in-line fuse would have done nothing but make for another fuse you would have to replace.

I hate to sound like a jerk, but please don't do any type of write-up about electrical modifications. If you're splicing factory harnesses with no idea what they are, just a 12V tester, you really shouldn't be helping anyone install anything.

A correct "splice" would never leave any un-insulated wiring exposed, and if shrink is properly used, it will never "slide off".
 

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Wife is from Venezuela, been down there many times. Would think you would be applying an opaque tint to your windows instead, so the bandits don't know if there are five guys in your Cruze carrying AK-47's for protection of if its just you.

Wife's Toyota still down there had a loose PS pump, just needed a 14 mm boxed end wrench to tighten it. For a six piece Made in China POS wrench set, wanted the equivalent of a hundred US bucks for it. But somehow managed to get by with an old rusty pair of vice-grips.

Can fill your tank cheaper than buying a bottle of water, just one small advantage. We have on over 21 unmarried son down there, been trying for the last seven years to get him out. But apparently Obama is far more interested in bringing people here from Africa.

I could easier live in Venezuela, all the hurricanes go north, no more heating and AC bills, such a beautiful climate. But seem to have other minor governmental problems. Would have to find something other than toilet paper to do its job.

But you are correct, a full month off for Christmas. But what about returning anything, if you even buy a broken appliance, stuck with it.
 

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An in-line fuse? Huh? How does that fix what you did? You grounded two wires together because some "electrical tape slipped". An in-line fuse would have done nothing but make for another fuse you would have to replace.

I hate to sound like a jerk, but please don't do any type of write-up about electrical modifications. If you're splicing factory harnesses with no idea what they are, just a 12V tester, you really shouldn't be helping anyone install anything.

A correct "splice" would never leave any un-insulated wiring exposed, and if shrink is properly used, it will never "slide off".
It was actually 2 connection I did about 1 month ago and moving the leds and glove box it slipped, cable did some contact with the metal, it wasn't exposed until I moved it again, hadn't I moved it, nothing would have happened, I'd also rather have the short circuit stop at the cable I added rather than have it go through my car.

I also deduces which cables were what because of their color and how they work, yellow cable in the headlamp, yellow cable in bcm that lights the tester when I turn the headlights on... Hm... What could it be...? Thick red cable near a black cable that is always light the tester even with the engine off... Hm... I don't know you, but I'm intelligent enough to deduce that

A correct splice is:
1) Find wire you need
2) Strip the rubber
3) Connect the other wire
4) Insulate

Well, that's what I did, the tape just moved, while I also did some reckless install I just want to give advice, telling them about my mistake and what will happen if the do manage to make the same mistakes I did, you're just being an ass , you should try helping instead of denying me what to do.

And if you're going to be a jerk/douche, please refrain yourself from posting in my thread, I just wanted to talk about what happened and the consequences, you're nobody to tell me what I can and can't do.
 

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Wife is from Venezuela, been down there many times. Would think you would be applying an opaque tint to your windows instead, so the bandits don't know if there are five guys in your Cruze carrying AK-47's for protection of if its just you.

Wife's Toyota still down there had a loose PS pump, just needed a 14 mm boxed end wrench to tighten it. For a six piece Made in China POS wrench set, wanted the equivalent of a hundred US bucks for it. But somehow managed to get by with an old rusty pair of vice-grips.

Can fill your tank cheaper than buying a bottle of water, just one small advantage. We have on over 21 unmarried son down there, been trying for the last seven years to get him out. But apparently Obama is far more interested in bringing people here from Africa.

I could easier live in Venezuela, all the hurricanes go north, no more heating and AC bills, such a beautiful climate. But seem to have other minor governmental problems. Would have to find something other than toilet paper to do its job.

But you are correct, a full month off for Christmas. But what about returning anything, if you even buy a broken appliance, stuck with it.
Odd that you couldn't get your son over here, I'm not sure how it works but I've been told parents can ask for their sons if they're under 21, and 7 years ago it would been a breeze, now it's really difficult...

I'm also looking to go over the States, next year if I don't got for a 1 month trip I'll go for good as a student for the Miami Dade College because we have a house there (even though we're renting it) and I also have some family there, you might think I'll leave for taxes (you rarely pay taxes unless you're a big industry here), Obamacare and way more expensive gas, but trust me, living here is not worth it.

About the rusty pair of grips... People here actually find many workarounds, sometimes it ends up like a cheap repair but hey, it's the best that can be done when you can't find anything else.
 

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Ha, my wife took me to her trusted mechanic, three like new belts on her car, said the only way he would adjust that one slightly loose PS pump belt was to replace all three with new ones. Price was the equivalent of $700.00 USD.

Here these belts would have cost under $20.00 and about a 15 minute job to change all three. Our Harbor Freight sells that same exact Made in China six piece wrench set for around three bucks. But would never buy one anyway, use all professional quality tools.

Not fooling with my Cruze until the warranty expires, but will only do this after purchasing a shop manual first. Our dealers don't even have a printed shop manual, download what they need off the computer. Could do that myself when I was working for GM, but after a couple of months, changed my password and wouldn't give me a new one.

Could also get free parts for engineering evaluation, also history. Ha, not nice being like everyone else.
 

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Ha, my wife took me to her trusted mechanic, three like new belts on her car, said the only way he would adjust that one slightly loose PS pump belt was to replace all three with new ones. Price was the equivalent of $700.00 USD.

Here these belts would have cost under $20.00 and about a 15 minute job to change all three. Our Harbor Freight sells that same exact Made in China six piece wrench set for around three bucks. But would never buy one anyway, use all professional quality tools.

Not fooling with my Cruze until the warranty expires, but will only do this after purchasing a shop manual first. Our dealers don't even have a printed shop manual, download what they need off the computer. Could do that myself when I was working for GM, but after a couple of months, changed my password and wouldn't give me a new one.

Could also get free parts for engineering evaluation, also history. Ha, not nice being like everyone else.
Here warranties barely mean anything, so technically I WAS safe, but the warranty of my Cruze already expired, 1 year/20k km...

Also, don't trust Mechanics here, most of them will tell you something is damaged when it's not so they can keep the original piece, or if you leave them the car they might actually steal components of the car to sell them and then you'll have to go back to fix what they broke, pretty cheap, even some dealers do that here, I hope mine doesn't, they treat me very good and the service is just excellent.
 

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Here warranties barely mean anything, so technically I WAS safe, but the warranty of my Cruze already expired, 1 year/20k km...

Also, don't trust Mechanics here, most of them will tell you something is damaged when it's not so they can keep the original piece, or if you leave them the car they might actually steal components of the car to sell them and then you'll have to go back to fix what they broke, pretty cheap, even some dealers do that here, I hope mine doesn't, they treat me very good and the service is just excellent.
**** remind me never to go were you live.

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Hey Xaxas, your English is very good by the way. Are you anywhere near Caracas? Wife's condo is about 20 miles SW of that city. Has security guards, three long keys to get into the doors, like being in a prison with bars on the windows. On the forth floor of a five story building, but still broken into. Apparently sneaked in from an outlying area, climbed up to the roof somehow, and used ropes to get down. And cleaned her apartment out, mostly her electronic goodies.

She kind of feels the security guards are in with these crooks, but no sense in calling the police, they are in it as well.

Kind of feel that socialism really doesn't work, didnt' work for the Soviets, Caracas has the highest murder rate in the world. Some kids tries to rob us, but handed my wife my shades and said, come on. Guess they didn't accept my challenge and ran the other way. Of all places, on a busy street in Caracas.

Vast majority of drivers don't even have insurance, and as any notary will tell you, cannot get blood from a turnip.
 

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Thank you Nick, I lived in the USA for about a year and a half when I was 10, since I was young and brute forced English I learned it pretty quickly, even now I like it more than Spanish, everything I can possibly have is in English, heck, even my TV menu.

I actually live in Valencia, one of the major cities you'll hear about, about 1 hour away from Caracas (4 accounting for traffic), sucks that you are never safe, heck, thugs from low parts get to be policemen, they are still thugs, but with a uniform and a badge, they are so poor you can break all the driving rules you can imagine, but you can just give them $5 or less and then call it a day, heck, I've given my fair share of bribes, you get used to it and sometimes you need it, you go from a corrupt policeman to a building filled with corrupt policemen wanting to take all they can for you, which one is better for you?

I have insurance and all my documents to date, and always will, they always try to screw you up because they see you are young and know you can slip the most stupid and unnecessary document, but they can get money of that, and if you get cocky, they can inspect your vehicle and plant drugs so you get arrested.
 

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No speed limits in Venezuela, but that Pan American expressway while a four lane road, has no shoulders and the right lane is constantly loaded with stalled vehicles. I know said 20 miles, actually is 20 KM, and to drive that to her apartment can take at least 4-5 hours. Ha, they don't need speed limits. Much longer if there is a rain with land slides, like 10 hours.

Wife was shocked when she first came here on our interstates with speed limits as low as 45 mph in some areas, but is the law. Also took her and my stepdaughter quite awhile to drink water from the tap without boiling it first. And living in a nice home without bars on the windows. And even safely taking a walk around the block at night.

Had to teach them to be good, wife was, but stepdaughter got a 40 buck fine because an idiot cop in town didn't think she parked at a stop sign long enough when she was 17 years old. That caused a two month delay in her getting her US citizenship.

Cruse here carries a 36 month or a 36K mile bumper to bumper warranty, will even replace a blown light bulb. And a 100k/5year powertrain and rust out warranty. Also a not too well known 80K EPA emissions warranty.

Took my wife over five years to get use to taking back anything she wasn't happy with. So I did that for her, heck with all this Made in China crap we are getting in the last 15 years or so, taking more back than what I am keeping. A huge downfall in a country I was expected to die for.

And those 9/11 terrorists did succeed in taking away many of our freedoms, surprised my fellow Americans put up with the BS. Love to speak up, but careful enough to control myself so I won't get arrested.

Speaking about getting arrested, a bit hesitant on going down to Venezuela today, Madman may arrest me for being an American spy. Hugo certainly spent enough bucks buying all that Russian crap for so called defense, plus giving a huge bunch of money to 14 different countries in an attempt to set up an anti-American alliance at severe cost to his own people.

Made many good friend down there, good hard working people, but ironically we both share being led by idiots. Actually calling our leaders an idiot is a compliment, when most of them are morons.
 

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The thing about people here, is that they are both lazy and hard working, a bit ironic, one good thing about Venezuelans is that they are very friendly, heck, didn't we win a Guinness for happiest people on the world once?

Also don't worry about coming here, they captured the 3 spies and the CIA Iguana that were sabotaging our electrical supply, just get a tan, use a cheap phone and you'll be safe.

And in any report related to the government, it's all made up to make it look that "things are getting better" or just "we are doing bad, the Empire (USA) is sabotaging us, we are good"

We jokingly mock your "crysis" and stating how you need 10 years of minimum wage to buy a Ford Fiesta with 60% or so inflation, at the time they bought my Cruze, at official rates we paid $52.000, the price of a Corvette, while you guys who live in $ can buy a 1LT trimmed Cruze for $8.200 IF you manage to find one from a dealer, I love the black market.
 
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