What gives chevrolet?

marbles67 said:

Hey all
Went looking for diesel cruze and there wasn't any around? The local dealer were trying to sell me gassers, but I'm interested in the diesel. They didn't have date as to when they would get any very strange either there selling fast or there not bringing in enough

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This is an interesting observation. There were plenty to choose from when I was looking this time last year.....

They stopped making them after the 2015 model year. They'll be back in the new Cruze for 2017.

If you wait long enough, you can get one of the new hatchbacks with the 1.6L CTD. There is a lot of speculation it's going to be good.

If you find a Cruze diesel at a different GM dealer then you can request your prefered dealer to get that vehicle shipped to them.

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MP81 said:

They stopped making them after the 2015 model year. They'll be back in the new Cruze for 2017.

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your kidding right? I thought it was 2.0 litre diesel and they at go to a 1.6?I'm not sure why they flip flop on design, the Volkswagen has had the same set up for year's for there diesel engine, the Cruze has already going to another engine?

marbles67 said:

Hey all
Went looking for diesel cruze and there wasn't any around? The local dealer were trying to sell me gassers, but I'm interested in the diesel. They didn't have date as to when they would get any very strange either there selling fast or there not bringing in enough

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wait, a dealer was trying to sell something they had in stock?

crazy talk

I know crazy right

boraz said:

wait, a dealer was trying to sell something they had in stock?

crazy talk

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because the 2.0 is great for highway and a lil heavier car. i think to help improve with city mpg they lose 300 lbs on the chassis and down size to a 1.6 to help city without hurting highway.... now what people don't think is that a 2.0 will handle a trunk full of stuff + 4 passengers better then a reduced weight 1.6 turbo diesel.

i am also disappointing they are downsizing. i think there is a limit of diminishing returns. when you down size so much and squeeze more out of the power plant you in the end lose reliability or raise cost.

marbles67 said:

your kidding right? I thought it was 2.0 litre diesel and they at go to a 1.6?I'm not sure why they flip flop on design, the Volkswagen has had the same set up for year's for there diesel engine, the Cruze has already going to another engine?

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Maybe we shouldn't compare gm to vw considering one isn't even allowed to sell diesel powered vehicles right now. Maybe gm is doing it right.

money_man said:

Maybe we shouldn't compare gm to vw considering one isn't even allowed to sell diesel powered vehicles right now. Maybe gm is doing it right.

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Hahah VW will never live this one down. At least not in the US. The few Diesel models over here earn a reputation and it sticks.

chevrasaki said:

Hahah VW will never live this one down. At least not in the US. The few Diesel models over here earn a reputation and it sticks.

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When it comes to German vehicles people are willing to turn a blind eye to anything that happens. The second vw is allowed to start selling tdi's, their sales will go through the roof. The general public are idiots and it's exactly what big business hopes for.

money_man said:

When it comes to German vehicles people are willing to turn a blind eye to anything that happens. The second vw is allowed to start selling tdi's, their sales will go through the roof. The general public are idiots and it's exactly what big business hopes for.

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I want to agree with you, but I'm not so sure on this occasion. I really think this has upset a lot of people.

chevrasaki said:

I want to agree with you, but I'm not so sure on this occasion. I really think this has upset a lot of people.

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One would certainly hope so. But like money man said - people are idiots.

There's a lot of **** we have to do or change due to the genuine stupidity of car buyers.

Well here you go. People think imports are so good because as an example, fast domestic cars can't turn. When in reality they turn very well and there's enough proof out there. But because they never used to, people keep the notion and won't buy.

Vw used to build good cars and because they used to, people will buy them again even if quality has gone way down hill.

Well I guess all th3 American diesel truck owners that do egr delete are in the same categories as the vw dealers

Once you do an illegal delete? Yes you'd be the same as the tdi.

Just recently did the mustang get the legs to properly turn, the corvette did it later in its life but man did they do a good job on there, the older gen camaro was a over bloated sedan platform minus a few doors and couldn't keep its rear in line at autocross, dont get me started on dodge... now the good. the ford focus is absolute fun and keeps where you want it, the ss cobalt was a great contender, once again dodge has absolutely no redeeming factor minus the wonderful viper.

the camaro ss will never keep up with a M series. America has the stuff to make cars to drive the Germans and Japanese back in the car world but they choose not to

Well back on topic, I'm still surprised they would change power plants so quick out of the gate,it will make me think twice now before I make a purchase. I would like to see some engine history before I shell out that much cash

marbles67 said:

Well back on topic, I'm still surprised they would change power plants so quick out of the gate,it will make me think twice now before I make a purchase. I would like to see some engine history before I shell out that much cash

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The 2.0L is a VM Motori unit, which they used for years before it made its way into the Cruze.

The 1.6L is the a new GM (Opel) unit, and is available overseas as of a year or so ago.