[Stnslote]

I would love the best tune for the 1.4L turbo. The trifecta is $300 giving you a bunch of options and increased power. The BNR is about $500 with the Autocal. Is there anything wrong with the trifecta ? I just hear some people say it?s junk and I wouldn?t want to throw down money for either one if that?s the case

 

[Osgoood1]

I would love the best tune for the 1.4L turbo. The trifecta is $300 giving you a bunch of options and increased power. The BNR is about $500 with the Autocal. Is there anything wrong with the trifecta ? I just hear some people say it?s junk and I wouldn?t want to throw down money for either one if that?s the case

My question is were dealing with 180hp 4 cylinder cars. Is it really worth it to to for such a minimum amount. I can see if you are tuning a v8 mustang or camero but a cruze seems unreasonable and not worth the 300 or 500

 

[Merc6]

My question is were dealing with 180hp 4 cylinder cars. Is it really worth it to to for such a minimum amount. I can see if you are tuning a v8 mustang or camero but a cruze seems unreasonable and not worth the 300 or 500

False,

Literally either tune on this platform is night and day but the options between the 2 differ a bit. You do any hard parts outside of an intake you need a tune or you will make your car slower than stock. If your end goal is to run down current gen Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, Type R, GTI, FiST, FoST, FoRS, STi, EVO or something of that 0-60 0-120 1/8 & 1/4 times then yes a tune alone isn't ideal.

 

[zippypcs]

I have tuned several of my cars with Trifecta. I have also used other tuners software. I find the Trifecta to be my best bang for the buck.
It is easy to install as well. I have had excellent service from them when asking for help with any of my tunes.
The tune helps with the car's performance and I like the fact that I can turn off the auto stop feature or have it disabled. My MPG has not suffered from the tune. I do run 91 or better because of the tune.
I also run full synthetic oil as well. My car is stock other than the tune , but the tune is quite apparent.

 

[Merc6]

I have tuned several of my cars with Trifecta. I have also used other tuners software. I find the Trifecta to be my best bang for the buck.
It is easy to install as well. I have had excellent service from them when asking for help with any of my tunes.
The tune helps with the car's performance and I like the fact that I can turn off the auto stop feature or have it disabled. My MPG has not suffered from the tune. I do run 91 or better because of the tune.
I also run full synthetic oil as well. My car is stock other than the tune , but the tune is quite apparent.

Who were the others besides BNR, Overkill ,ZZP and V Tuners?

 

[Osgoood1]

My question is were dealing with 180hp 4 cylinder cars. Is it really worth it to to for such a minimum amount. I can see if you are tuning a v8 mustang or camero but a cruze seems unreasonable and not worth the 300 or 500

False,

Literally either tune on this platform is night and day but the options between the 2 differ a bit. You do any hard parts outside of an intake you need a tune or you will make your car slower than stock. If your end goal is to run down current gen Mustang, Camaro, Challenger, Type R, GTI, FiST, FoST, FoRS, STi, EVO or something of that 0-60 0-120 1/8 & 1/4 times then yes a tune alone isn't ideal.

I totally agree with using a tune if you're running stuff under the hood or if you're taking off cats or so on. But from a tune standpoint as a tune just by itself for the price to me it's hard to justify that it's worth it.

 

[zippypcs]

Who were the others besides BNR, Overkill ,ZZP and V Tuners?

I have used IPF tunes and handheld like Diablo Trinity ( for my older Suburban). The Trifecta has been the best for me as far as being easy to place tune and remove if needed quickly. I have tuned Sonics, Cruzes, Solstices, Newer Impalas, Cadillac ATS as well. The IPF Tunes I used were for our Camaros. Mainly V-6 models. Also was like download vehicle info to module, then back to PC to get tune then back to vehicle to install the tune. And I had and IPF module that failed as well.
I just find those to be a bit cumbersome with the added modules and cables. The Trinity is a nice setup but almost double the price, but has some features that are customizable like trans shift points and if you are changing tire sizes. Just not for me as I like simple mostly. Plus Trinity is pricey when compared to some other solutions. I have not used the BNR handhelds but some of my friends have and seem to like them. I have bought a few items from BNR including my first Trifecta tune several years ago. With the Trifecta tune I just kinda get it and go as I am not planning on a bunch of mods other than the tune.

 

[eddiefromcali]

Black Bear Performance tune my 14 1.4 and Im happy

 

[Merc6]

I have used IPF tunes and handheld like Diablo Trinity ( for my older Suburban). The Trifecta has been the best for me as far as being easy to place tune and remove if needed quickly. I have tuned Sonics, Cruzes, Solstices, Newer Impalas, Cadillac ATS as well. The IPF Tunes I used were for our Camaros. Mainly V-6 models. Also was like download vehicle info to module, then back to PC to get tune then back to vehicle to install the tune. And I had and IPF module that failed as well.
I just find those to be a bit cumbersome with the added modules and cables. The Trinity is a nice setup but almost double the price, but has some features that are customizable like trans shift points and if you are changing tire sizes. Just not for me as I like simple mostly. Plus Trinity is pricey when compared to some other solutions. I have not used the BNR handhelds but some of my friends have and seem to like them. I have bought a few items from BNR including my first Trifecta tune several years ago. With the Trifecta tune I just kinda get it and go as I am not planning on a bunch of mods other than the tune.

That pretty much sounds like my Marauder when I had a Lidio Tuned SCT X cal 2. Shift mph, shift pressure, revs per mile and timing. If you get a chance, find a BNR tuned Cruze. I was semi going to convert like the rest but I was more geared towards ditching the car than re tune.

 

[zippypcs]

I am pretty sure Eric has both tunes Trifecta and BNR. I watched his 0-60 on youtube but I will stick with the Trifecta for now. The tune for my 2017 was @ 349 so not as much as the BNR tune and is why I went that way for the canned tune.
My next project is to get this JBL pro slim sub mounted hopefully this weekend.

 

[Merc6]

I am pretty sure Eric has both tunes Trifecta and BNR. I watched his 0-60 on youtube but I will stick with the Trifecta for now. The tune for my 2017 was @ 349 so not as much as the BNR tune and is why I went that way for the canned tune.
My next project is to get this JBL pro slim sub mounted hopefully this weekend.

IIRC tunes were both 1 manual hatch and 1 auto sedan?

I totally agree with using a tune if you're running stuff under the hood or if you're taking off cats or so on. But from a tune standpoint as a tune just by itself for the price to me it's hard to justify that it's worth it.

It's still night and day for what you get. It's not like the GM tune that they tried to pass off with the performance exhaust package. You have to find a tuned Cruze to experience it for yourself. If your intent is like the rest of the folks who simply got the car to keep miles off the project car or you live where its heavy traffic then you may not justify it as much as the guy with 1 car and clear open space to do stuff "responsibly"

You take the tune off to go in for service, its like the most saddest trip to and from the dealership. Lol it's that big of a difference. OEM tune sandbags a lot and switches back and forth from the 87 and 91 fuel map inconstantly even if you have 93 in the tank.

 

[zippypcs]

yes OEM tune is like...:sad010:

 

[XtremeRevolution]

BNR currently has the best tune for the Cruze, hands down. They make more power, the customer service is better, the modification support is better, and the tune itself is cheaper.

BNR Tune 2011-2016 Limited Chevrolet Cruze 1.4L Turbo

Going from Trifecta to BNR was like going from stock to Trifecta.

Unlike the Trifecta cable which requires a laptop, you get a handheld Autocal that you can store several tunes on and switch between quickly, and if you do sell your car, you can sell the autocal itself. They usually go for $200. Nobody will buy a Trifecta cable.

 

[CruzeTech]

I second the BNR tune. Probably one of the only people on this forum, to have had a Trifecta Tune, on my second Eco, a BNR tune on my third Eco, and a BNR tune, with a trans tune, on my 4th Cruze, Gen 2. Not to knock the Trifecta tune, in any way. I just prefer the BNR tune. The Gen 2 tune is no joke. To me, it’s leaps and bounds over the Gen 1 tune, for either BNR, or Trifecta. It’s a better Transmission, and a better, smoother engine. Taking off from a stop sign, in my Gen 2 Premier Hatch, Auto, with the BNR tune, you can’t just stab the gas pedal to the ground, because you will spin the tires, all the way through first gear, and that’s with the traction control on, which just makes the light blink like crazy. You definitely can’t go wrong with the BNR tune.


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[Therealajsilva]

I have a new turbo and it keeps opening the wastegate and letting out boost when it isn’t supposed to. Would a tune fix this?

 

[-loki-]

Not seeing a lot of people talk about the ZZP tune? Why not? I just got my cruze for my new daily to retire my aging Ford Ranger to hauling duties. What worries me about the high power tunes is how safe are they really?I would love the power, but would love to get this car to the mileage of my ranger...

 

[eddiemonaco]

HI I have 2013 Cruze LT auto and I did this so far ( K&N intake, port intake, MSD coil pack , ZZP 42# injector, ZZP downpipes, ZZP throttle body spacer , ZZP 72# valve spring and straight exhaust pipe. ) What kind of Tune some one recommend.

 

[Cruzin2011]

HI I have 2013 Cruze LT auto and I did this so far ( K&N intake, port intake, MSD coil pack , ZZP 42# injector, ZZP downpipes, ZZP throttle body spacer , ZZP 72# valve spring and straight exhaust pipe. ) What kind of Tune some one recommend.

I have several of the mods you have and I used ZZP for everything. They are great to work with and I was getting updated tunes within 30 minutes of sending them my log files.

 

[Cruzin2011]

I personally recommend ZZP, I’m running their tune on my car and it’s making quite a bit of power with more in the works.

I emailed BNR when I was just doing research because they are really close to me but didn’t hear anything back. With ZZP I was getting updated tunes within 30 minutes of sending Tim my log scans.

Plus they don’t lock their tunes and I’ve been into mine and taking a peek at things, disabled a CEL that was a false positive and comparing their tune to my stock tune.

 

[VeloTheCruze]

I am pretty sure Eric has both tunes Trifecta and BNR. I watched his 0-60 on youtube but I will stick with the Trifecta for now. The tune for my 2017 was @ 349 so not as much as the BNR tune and is why I went that way for the canned tune.
My next project is to get this JBL pro slim sub mounted hopefully this weekend.

Did you ever get the sub mounted? How difficult was it? I plan to throw a Rockville 12” in mine but oven never done the wiring for a 2018.