Put a spare in the trunk, if you need big storage area you probably bought the wrong car to begin with
What Made you Decide to get a Cruze Diesel over a Jetta TDI?
So, there may already be threads on this, but I'm bored and felt like having a conversation as to why people decided to go with a Cruze diesel. Here are my reasons:
The fully optioned out Cruze was cheaper than the fully optioned out Jetta, felt more solid, has a better fuel economy rating, has more power, and is more enjoyable to drive. If I had a family that I had to drag around and often had people in the back seat, I would've probably taken the Jetta for it's superior leg room in the back, but to me it is irrelevant. I also trust the Cruze more for reliability than I do the Jetta. I often think to myself if I'd be happy if I had gotten a Jetta, and normally I start to think, "well I like how it looked more, and wow was it spacious in the back, and there is something that sounds better about owning a German car" but then all I have to think about is how it felt like all power was lost past 3800 rpm in the one I test drove, and I'm reminded of why I like the Cruze so much more. Honestly if the Jetta had more power, I may have gone with it, but the way it faded out on the top end, I felt was an instant dissapointment.
So why did you guys go with a Cruze diesel instead of a Jetta TDI?
The fully optioned out Cruze was cheaper than the fully optioned out Jetta, felt more solid, has a better fuel economy rating, has more power, and is more enjoyable to drive. If I had a family that I had to drag around and often had people in the back seat, I would've probably taken the Jetta for it's superior leg room in the back, but to me it is irrelevant. I also trust the Cruze more for reliability than I do the Jetta. I often think to myself if I'd be happy if I had gotten a Jetta, and normally I start to think, "well I like how it looked more, and wow was it spacious in the back, and there is something that sounds better about owning a German car" but then all I have to think about is how it felt like all power was lost past 3800 rpm in the one I test drove, and I'm reminded of why I like the Cruze so much more. Honestly if the Jetta had more power, I may have gone with it, but the way it faded out on the top end, I felt was an instant dissapointment.
So why did you guys go with a Cruze diesel instead of a Jetta TDI?
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DEF is a positive. Yeah, the lack of spare tire is a minus, but overall DEF is a positive. It allows the engine to be tuned leaner and run cleaner; less chance of fouling up due to EGR and longer DPF life. Notice the Jetta's DPF pre-DEF has a service life of about 120,000 miles. From what I understand, it regens roughly twice as often as the Cruze.Jetta pros:
-No DEF
Besides; it's a moot point soon as the Jetta will soon have DEF as well.
You can add "no imploding HPFP" to the list of reasons to buy a CTD over a TDI.
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Also add after a brutal winter, there didn't seem to be rampant reports of intercoolers freezing up causing a whole host of problems like on all the tdi's EXCEPT the newest Passat
I wonder if the Jetta will manage to have room for a spare as well as DEF. If I hadn't bought a Cruze diesel I may have been interested in the Focus 2.0L TDI, but I got a fantastic deal on the Cruze and 0.5% interest sealed it for me.DEF is a positive. Yeah, the lack of spare tire is a minus, but overall DEF is a positive. It allows the engine to be tuned leaner and run cleaner; less chance of fouling up due to EGR and longer DPF life. Notice the Jetta's DPF pre-DEF has a service life of about 120,000 miles. From what I understand, it regens roughly twice as often as the Cruze.
Besides; it's a moot point soon as the Jetta will soon have DEF as well.
Oh. We don't get that one here in the States. This is relevant to my interests!!!If I hadn't bought a Cruze diesel I may have been interested in the Focus 2.0L TDI
Ford Australia - Focus - Specifications & OptionsOh. We don't get that one here in the States. This is relevant to my interests!!!
I have always had a chevy brand on my ass. I am a generation 3 GM employee and I would drive nothing different. Between the incentives, the quality, and reliability I went with the cruze. It's powerful and practical. Not to mention a great little eye catcher.
Brand loyalty. My 8[SUP]th[/SUP] Chevy vehicle. …the $3500in incentives on top of invoice pricing didn’t hurt either!
I am looking at the CTD, and am a current Volkswagen owner. I don't own a TDI however, I have a GTI.
Volkswagens are almost always fun to drive, but mine and all of my friends' VWs have been bottomless money pits. The older TDIs have a great reputation for reliability; the new ones not so much. The Jettas and Golfs have the infamous HPFP and intercooler icing problem, plus the general electronic issues you can expect on any VW. The Passats have so far been pretty hardy I believe. Also, if you're buying an auto trans, VWs DCT is not particularly reliable but there is always the manual available.
The new Mk7 generation is fixing the intercooler icing issues, but not the HPFP if I recall. They're also adding the DPF and new modular chassis system to lower manufacturing costs and purchase price, and are moving production to Mexico. VW does very well around the world sales wise, but they're slipping badly in the US so the cost cutting is their attempt to bring customers in.
Reliability is important to me so I have been taking a more serious look at the CTD which seems to be a pretty solid platform.
Volkswagens are almost always fun to drive, but mine and all of my friends' VWs have been bottomless money pits. The older TDIs have a great reputation for reliability; the new ones not so much. The Jettas and Golfs have the infamous HPFP and intercooler icing problem, plus the general electronic issues you can expect on any VW. The Passats have so far been pretty hardy I believe. Also, if you're buying an auto trans, VWs DCT is not particularly reliable but there is always the manual available.
The new Mk7 generation is fixing the intercooler icing issues, but not the HPFP if I recall. They're also adding the DPF and new modular chassis system to lower manufacturing costs and purchase price, and are moving production to Mexico. VW does very well around the world sales wise, but they're slipping badly in the US so the cost cutting is their attempt to bring customers in.
Reliability is important to me so I have been taking a more serious look at the CTD which seems to be a pretty solid platform.
In 75K miles on my CTD I have needed wheel bearings and an exhaust gas temperature sensor. Although not perfect, nothing near catastrophic and indicates to me it's a very solid powertrain. I expect it to be reliable well past 100K miles.I am looking at the CTD, and am a current Volkswagen owner. I don't own a TDI however, I have a GTI.
Volkswagens are almost always fun to drive, but mine and all of my friends' VWs have been bottomless money pits. The older TDIs have a great reputation for reliability; the new ones not so much. The Jettas and Golfs have the infamous HPFP and intercooler icing problem, plus the general electronic issues you can expect on any VW. The Passats have so far been pretty hardy I believe. Also, if you're buying an auto trans, VWs DCT is not particularly reliable but there is always the manual available.
The new Mk7 generation is fixing the intercooler icing issues, but not the HPFP if I recall. They're also adding the DPF and new modular chassis system to lower manufacturing costs and purchase price, and are moving production to Mexico. VW does very well around the world sales wise, but they're slipping badly in the US so the cost cutting is their attempt to bring customers in.
Reliability is important to me so I have been taking a more serious look at the CTD which seems to be a pretty solid platform.
How many miles were on your car when the wheel bearings needed to be replaced and how many miles when the EGT sensor went?In 75K miles on my CTD I have needed wheel bearings and an exhaust gas temperature sensor. Although not perfect, nothing near catastrophic and indicates to me it's a very solid powertrain. I expect it to be reliable well past 100K miles.
Wheel bearings were noisy from the high 40's but I thought it was my snow tires. I ended up replacing at 60K. The sensor went a week later at 61K.How many miles were on your car when the wheel bearings needed to be replaced and how many miles when the EGT sensor went?
That's ridiculous. If my wheel bearings go at all inside 100k, and GM doesn't cover it (dont care if the warranty is out), I'll be making someone's life miserable.In 75K miles on my CTD I have needed wheel bearings and an exhaust gas temperature sensor. Although not perfect, nothing near catastrophic and indicates to me it's a very solid powertrain. I expect it to be reliable well past 100K miles.
That's ridiculous. If my wheel bearings go at all inside 100k, and GM doesn't cover it (dont care if the warranty is out), I'll be making someone's life miserable.
I used to work at an Infiniti dealership and wheel bearings would go on most of the Infiniti's around 60k miles. I think the lowest I ever saw was 4k miles (can't remember why it was so low) and the highest any had ever made it was like 100k miles.Wheel bearings were noisy from the high 40's but I thought it was my snow tires. I ended up replacing at 60K. The sensor went a week later at 61K.
The only car I've ever had to replace bearings on was a Ford Explorer around 70 or 80k. That SUV was junk all around. Most of my past vehicles I've put 75-150k of my own miles on as well.I used to work at an Infiniti dealership and wheel bearings would go on most of the Infiniti's around 60k miles. I think the lowest I ever saw was 4k miles (can't remember why it was so low) and the highest any had ever made it was like 100k miles.
Could it be the salty roads in winter that cause early problems in wheel bearings? My 1999 Commodore had 250,000 km on the clock when I sold it and original wheel bearings were fine then. I would expect CV joints to fail before wheel bearings.
Not too sure if there is some effect there. If there is I don't think it's too severe of one, based on my experience. Snowfall around here ranges from 80-100 inches depending on where you are. They also use that liquid salt stuff that cakes onto everything.Could it be the salty roads in winter that cause early problems in wheel bearings? My 1999 Commodore had 250,000 km on the clock when I sold it and original wheel bearings were fine then. I would expect CV joints to fail before wheel bearings.
I have no experience with salted snow and limited experience with any snow at all, but I read about the problems caused by salting roads in USA. We are fortunate to be able to use summer tyres all year round in Sydney and for that matter most of Australia.Not too sure if there is some effect there. If there is I don't think it's too severe of one, based on my experience. Snowfall around here ranges from 80-100 inches depending on where you are. They also use that liquid salt stuff that cakes onto everything.
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