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1.8L-SC Cruze

Discussion Starter · Apr 9, 2016

Why couldn't GM give this car any kind of go? I mean the Cobalt got an SS model. Heck even the HHR got an SS. Why not a Cruze SS?

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jblackburn

· #2 · Apr 9, 2016

You're late to the party. This complaint has only been present for the past 6 years.

The market for quick economy sedans fizzled out. There's...the Jetta. Then a couple fun hatchbacks.

Then you move into more "luxury" nameplates that have small cars with higher HP motors. Buick has what you're looking for, if you can stand the looks of it.

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Bohdan

· #3 · Apr 9, 2016

I know the feeling. We have started to look and have seen the new Cruze with its 1.4 turbo and are not impressed. However we have seen and test driven the Hyundai Veloster with its 1.6 turbo at 201 hp and are very impressed. Our 2012 Cruze LTZ RS is slow yet was nice to drive in and has given us 4 great yrs. We where waiting for GM to make a 2 door Hatch-Back but they only will have the same as a 2017 and its a 4 door Hatch-Back. For us right now is the Veloster fully loaded for under $25,000. Here is a photo of what we should have by July of this year. Its been a while since I have been on this site and will still continue to read your great forum with its wonderful members.

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Alex V.

· #4 · Apr 10, 2016

Why didn't the Cruze diesel last, and why wasn't it offered with a manual transmission? Why didn't the Cruze RS get the goodies of the Sonic RS? All I can figure is that the largest portion of the market for the Cruze is the buy-what's-on-the-lot crowd that sells or trades it after 3-7 years, prefers a gasoline/automatic drivetrain, and is more concerned about interior noise and how many apps the radio will support than anything. The bean counters focus on those figures and aren't concerned about catering to the few that buy a car to be proud of it, because it's what they wanted. Actually, they probably have good reason because we don't take our cars to the dealership for all the service and will own it twice as long as the statistical average, denying them profit.

Retrospectively comparing all other models, of all brands, for the 2013 model year, I'm still very happy with my purchase. The only vehicle I'd have rather bought was a 2 dr. Wrangler Sport w/manual trans., and it's better I didn't because of how my income has changed since then. My Cruze is more fast and agile than I have the opportunity to test more than 2-3 times a year, and it's practical and economical enough that I don't have to think about trading it in when I have kids in the next few years (aka, Camaro). It aggravates me that Chevy no longer offers the equivalent to cars I've heard stories about all my life (350HP Novas, 427 Impalas, etc.) - really only the Camaro and Corvette now, neither of which are really fast until you pass $40,000 - but I believe it boils down to car culture today being a shadow of what it was when "SS" became such an iconic option.

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money_man

· #5 · Apr 10, 2016

Bohdan said:
I know the feeling. We have started to look and have seen the new Cruze with its 1.4 turbo and are not impressed. However we have seen and test driven the Hyundai Veloster with its 1.6 turbo at 201 hp and are very impressed. Our 2012 Cruze LTZ RS is slow yet was nice to drive in and has given us 4 great yrs. We where waiting for GM to make a 2 door Hatch-Back but they only will have the same as a 2017 and its a 4 door Hatch-Back. For us right now is the Veloster fully loaded for under $25,000. Here is a photo of what we should have by July of this year. Its been a while since I have been on this site and will still continue to read your great forum with its wonderful members.

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Do some research on the turbos and see of they're better than whatever they've been using. I have 3 hyundai tech friends who have all told me (because my wife is looking at the new tucson) that the engines are good but the turbochargers are horrible.

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Tomko

· #6 · Apr 10, 2016

The Chevrolet SS sedan is every bit as iconic as 350hp Nova or 427 Impala. Just as rare as well.

I would have ordered one in a heartbeat if my dealer could have had an allocation.

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money_man

· #7 · Apr 10, 2016

Tomko said:
The Chevrolet SS sedan is every bit as iconic as 350hp Nova or 427 Impala. Just as rare as well.

I would have ordered one in a heartbeat if my dealer could have had an allocation.

I like the 1967 impala 4 door with the 327ci

Tomko

· #8 · Apr 10, 2016

money_man said:
I like the 1967 impala 4 door with the 327ci

My last living uncle, now pushing 88, had a '69 Impala with a 327. It was a factory order for somebody who for whatever the reason didn't take delivery. My uncle was friends with the dealership salesmanager and so he got first dibs. It was an olive green metallic. And as my uncle often says, it never once got stuck in a Winnipeg winter. It got replaced with a 1979 Impala with LG3 power. I liked the look of his '79 better and even got to drive it one time.

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joshuab

· #9 · Apr 10, 2016

Yeah I would like to see GM bring something out for the Cruze to make it faster stock like a SS. For example the Dodge Dart SRT packing close to 300HP in a small car stock. I am not a tuner nor not know much about it but I like power & it'd be nice to get something w/ more power out of the box, just saying....

lakemg

· #10 · Apr 10, 2016

Tomko said:
The Chevrolet SS sedan is every bit as iconic as 350hp Nova or 427 Impala. Just as rare as well.

I would have ordered one in a heartbeat if my dealer could have had an allocation.

Another great car that few people know about and they have been around since 2014. Pontiac G8 GT with 361 HP was no slouch either...

Tomko

· #11 · Apr 10, 2016

lakemg said:
Another great car that few people know about and they have been around since 2014. Pontiac G8 GT with 361 HP was no slouch either...

Another one I tried for too. Begged my dealer principal for a G8 GTP - but again, he couldn't get an allocation.

sparkman

· #12 · Apr 10, 2016

If only they'd shove the 305 HP 3.6L V6 in there......endless burnouts.....

Can you imagine that with a manual?

Keep dreaming....

Alex V.

· #13 · Apr 10, 2016

sparkman said:
If only they'd shove the 305 HP 3.6L V6 in there......endless burnouts.....

Can you imagine that with a manual?

Keep dreaming....

Oh, that's a must in my mental-prototype Cruze SS. I've already given it some thought.

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Aussie

· #14 · Apr 10, 2016

Alex V. said:
Oh, that's a must in my mental-prototype Cruze SS. I've already given it some thought.

My friend's 1.6T SRI-V hatchback has over 220hp with a BNR tune. Would that qualify for an SS badge?

1.8L-SC Cruze

Discussion Starter · #15 · Apr 12, 2016

I mean it'd be one thing if it was an ugly car and slow. That would be acceptable. But they are good looking. I bought a 1987 BMW to drive daily because the Cruze is just so boring to drive. I mean how hard would it have been to at least put in the 2.4L out of an Equinox which generates 180hp and still gets close to 30 mpg on the highway in the Equinox... That would be sufficiently peppy in the much smaller Cruze.

obermd

· #16 · Apr 12, 2016

You do realize that you bought the slowest North American version of the Cruze. The 1.4T is definitely more responsive and if you wanted the "quickest" variant with the gas engine you would need the ECO MT. The CTD is definitely more powerful than any of the gas models.

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money_man

· #17 · Apr 12, 2016

I second the diesel. I have tq for days.

Aussie

· #18 · Apr 12, 2016

I have a diesel and my daughter has a 1.6T manual hatchback and the 1.6T is faster than a diesel off the line. I think the diesel has an advantage when fully loaded with passengers especially on hills for being easy performance. Both are nice drives though.

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1.8L-SC Cruze

Discussion Starter · #19 · Apr 12, 2016

I bought the cheapest car on the lot. I got a deal. I sort of ended up with a Cruze because it was too good of a deal and perfect for the commute I had at the time.

spaycace

· #20 · Apr 13, 2016

One answer ... Beancounters

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