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87 octane on a 91+ tune (mis-fueling)

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#1 ·
Those of you who know more specifics about this than I do, I'd appreciate your insights!

Specifically, what might happen when somebody puts a tank of 87 octane into a tuned 1.4T that needs 91+ octane? I am not advocating that anybody do this. Accidental mis-fuelings are known to happen, however. Gas station attendants, spouses/friends who swap drivers on long trips, gas station in the boonies that only has 87, etc.

My hypothesis is that the knock sensors would be going nuts and yanking timing initially, then build the additional fueling and retarded timing needed to prevent a good bit of knock into the long-term fuel trims. They'd still be going nuts and your engine's life would still be very dependent on a pair of sensors. The car would still drive, but would be dog-slow and slurp fuel like it's free booze. At least those are my thoughts.

What else should we all know about this?
 
#2 ·
Most cars have a high octane map (Trifecta tweaked this) and a low octane map based on what the knock sensor hears.

When I bought an aftermarket tune for my S70, the low octane map was essentially unchanged from the stock configuration just for safety's sake. Yeah, timing pull at low RPM was intense (and is very noticeable on the Cruze as well).


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#3 ·
Each time the car is refueled.It tests for fuel octane content.Based on this test it would run on the PCMs low octane map.
 
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I was worried that given the select-a-tune in my Trifecta-tuned Cruze, the low-octane map was replaced by the eco tune and the high-octane map was the full tune.

Sounds like keeping it in eco mode should be just fine then.