[justin13703]

I got the P11DC code about a month after the recall. I cleared it with my scanner and I'll see if it comes back.

 

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Got the second P11DC code since the recall yesterday so I took it straight to the dealership. Called today for an update and they said that the car is giving them "a **** of a time". So we will see how it ends up.

On another note, the car is also in there for a new headlight since the last one they replaced had different color reflectors in it than the other headlight, and the blower motor is chirping like a flock of birds. I love this car, but I've never in my life owned a car with even half as many issues as this one. And it was bought brand new. I think this marks like the 10th time this car has been to the dealership in 35k miles. I have a 10 year old dodge and a 16 year old Honda that are both used as backups for when this new car is constantly at the dealership.

 

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I tried a few days ago to post an update, but after my post was repeatedly deleted into the abyss 3 times in a row by this terrible mobile forum software I gave up. So I'll try it again.

Picked the car up the other day from the P11DC repair. Said they replaced the position 2 nox sensor. We will see if this fixes it. They also replaced the blower motor due to squeaking, and before I even got home, the new one was squeaking. I'm done wasting my time with these squeaking blower motors, I guess I'll have to accept that until the day I get rid of the car I will have to listen to that piece of junk chirping away.

 

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My Christmas bonus is going towards a Fleece delete. I've seen enough at this point to know pay me now or pay me later. I'm not even bothering to go to the dealer.

I'm going to be taking a tax return and doing the same thing. Should actually make the car reliable.

 

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It makes no sense at all how some vehicles with this recall have no issues and then other ones have a cel before they even get the thing home from the recall. Seems like a complete gamble with no reasoning behind it.

My check engine light hasn't been on since I had the repair after I had the recall done. But it hasn't been very long yet so we will see.

 

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if you have emissions related issues out of warranty the cost is borderline insane, just read about a member here havingalmost $3000 to fix emissions related issues and some maintenance.

What's insane is that someone would spend 3k fixing emissions issues out of warranty when they could have spent half that and never had to worry about another emissions issue again.

 

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I think this marks like the 10th time this car has been to the dealership in 35k miles. I have a 10 year old dodge and a 16 year old Honda that are both used as backups for when this new car is constantly at the dealership.

You said it, brother.

I re-registered on the forum just to post in this thread... Mine is a 2014 (Nov 2013 build) and I've gotten CEL on it repeatedly both before and after the NOX recall. Like you, I'm just a bit under 36,000 miles. Yesterday I started getting "exhaust code - limp mode is coming" warnings on the DIC.

This was just prior to taking a 200 mile round trip... so I parked my Cruze, and drove a 17 year old Oldsmobile Intrigue instead! I keep hold of it, just in case I'm having issues with the Cruze. Sheez! Isn't the whole point of owning a new car, that you are accepting making payments each month, but want the peace of mind that you can drive at any time and go a long distance?

I usually keep my cars a decade or more. But I'll dump the Cruze in trade when I get close to the emissions warranty limit. I think I'll take it to South Carolina, and purchase there, simply to be nice to whoever owns it next... no safety inspections in S.C. and at least the next person can ignore the dashboard lights. (As long is it's just the usual minor P11DC code I suppose...)

I'm still not too upset with GM at this point. I knew I was taking a gamble on new technology. But I'll be going back to a gasoline powered vehicle next time.

Yeah even with the emissions issues I still don't plan on getting rid of the car. I'll just drive it until it goes out of emissions warranty and then delete it. People can say what they want about a delete, but I truly believe that once you delete one of these things you will have an essentially bulletproof car.

And I have no hard feelings toward gm about the issues at all. Yeah it gets frustrating from time to time, but they went out on a limb and did something they haven't done in a long time, and something that most other manufacturers are terrified to do so I do support that. If I was in the market for another new car, I would definitely consider another gm diesel. If for no other reason than to support small diesels in the US. Hopefully they get the emissions issues ironed out, and people can just enjoy driving them. Because a diesel car/small truck is a **** of a lot of fun to drive.

 

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We have yearly inspections in my state. Maybe I'll end up buying a fresh sensor every year... chalk it up as netting out the fuel savings I earned by driving a diesel.

I think you'd be okay with just clearing the code right before the inspection - it usually takes a few (hundred, sometimes) miles to come back.

But yes - the P11DC won't affect how the car operates - other than not allowing the use of remote start.

This won't work if they scan the car. It will take a couple hundred miles for the readiness monitors to complete, at which point the P11DC code will probably be back. If the readiness monitors aren't complete, the car will still fail.

 

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Interestingly my cel hasn't come back on since the last repair where they replaced the downstream nox sensor. Maybe mine is happy now.

Of course I say that and now it'll come on tomorrow morning.

 

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Interestingly my cel hasn't come back on since the last repair where they replaced the downstream nox sensor. Maybe mine is happy now.

Of course I say that and now it'll come on tomorrow morning.

How many miles have you driven without a CEL?

Probably about 800. Which is why I'm not confident yet that it's fixed. It can come back on (and probably will) any day now.

 

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Interestingly the GM tech said today that about 2000 CTD's have done the recall and only around 200 or so are having the reocurring p11dc issue. They are going to put an analyzing tool on my car that will help them find specifically when the cel is firing(speed/grade/temp/throttle..) while im driving.

10% of everyone getting the recall done having their cars get screwed up in the process is pretty bad, although I believe the real percentage is much higher than that.

 

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Yeah 750 for an egr replacement, they hosed you. I cant see a dealer needing more than an hour to do it, so minus the cost of the part, you basically payed 600-650 an hour for labor.

 

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I get your point, but like I said there was a good chance at the time with the car only being on the market a year you would not even find the part on the open market, today is not what it was 3 years ago when the repair was made.
Also I was out of town when the car decided not to start. It was in the body shop for a repair and I received a call your car won't start.
Funny I drove it there but I'm 1000 miles away on vacation. So I just told them to fix it and that was the bill.

Regardless of whether the parts were available on the open market or not, what he was saying is that dealer cost on that part is probably less than 100 dollars and it took them no more than an hour at most to replace it. It just sucks to see people taken advantage of like that. They knew you were in a position where you were going to want them to fix it so they bent you over. And even if that is a standard charge, 750 dollars to replace that part is nothing less than robbery.

 

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just had a cel code P11DC poped up yesterday, at just 24000 km, I found few clamps loose, actually all 5 were loose don't know if related but I tight them up and I cleared the code with my Scangauge, then I took it for a ride, about 100 km, no code so far. I don't want to believe that GM would throw a code remotely through OnStar...just thinking. I mention here that I didn't do any recalls as of now.

No, GM is definitely not remotely sending you false check engine codes. They have enough problems with these cars without getting themselves involved in some fake CEL conspiracy.

 

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No, GM is definitely not remotely sending you false check engine codes. They have enough problems with these cars without getting themselves involved in some fake CEL conspiracy.

I had cleared my cel code the other day, no cels since then, the coincidence is to high getting this cel and the warranty card notice from GM

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Lol, it was just a coincidence. For one, your car is under warranty. Why would they be randomly picking people out to send false check engine codes to, while their car is covered under warranty? Also, the recall has been suspended by gm. Literally the only thing it would have done was cost them money, not you.

There isn't always some hidden meaning behind everything. There is not someone sitting behind a computer at gm sending fake CEL's to your car while it's under warranty. Lol

 

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Paculino, have you ever had any of the nox sensors replaced? Now I'm just thinking because usually the p11dc code only showed up after the recall, its strange to see it when the recall hasn't been done. I'm just curious if your nox sensors are still the factory ones or if they have been replaced at any point

 

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I don't like their game, I feal like a rat in their lab 

Nothing has been done on my car, everything is factory original, that's why it's curious why I got the code.

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That could be part of the issue, I thought at one point they changed part numbers on the nox sensors or something. I could be wrong though but I thought they have been updated at some point

 

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Yes it is unusual to get the P11DC without the recall.



As far as I know, the p/n are the same. Can anybody correct me on this?

You're probably right, I thought I remembered a change in them I while back but I could be thinking of something else.

 

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For me this culminated in a P20EE codes after I replaced the NOX1 sensor and ALL the other codes resolved on their own after about 30 miles driving. Took the vehicle into dealer I purchased from, they ran tests on DEF/SCR system and also performed a manual regen, found no codes and then did the dreaded recall (add me to the recall list boys). hmy:

20 miles and counting since and no new codes ...yet!

Why did they do that recall? It's been suspended by gm and they shouldn't be doing it anymore. They need to un-do it.

 

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You bring up a good point ...but isn't that like asking why a dealer would put Dexos1 oil into a CTD yet this is known to happen?

I described to the dealer Tech working on the car the series of what was going on with the MIL, codes, and warning messages and replacing the NOX1 sensor. He said he would bring the car up to date on recalls, run tests on the DPF/SCR systems and perform a manual regen then see where we were at that time. When he was done he said NO problem found chalked it off to some temporary fuel/DEF contamination and gave the car back with clean bill of health and cleanly washed exterior. From the billing how does one know whether any recall updates were done even though he said he was going to bring it up to date? Or even with a code reader can one tell if an update was performed, if so how, version numbers?

On my F350 PS6.0L when reading the codes each module reports version level so one can tell which load version they are currently running. Otherwise I got a pretty expensive car wash without even a waxing. :redface: :uhh: :smileystooges:

150 miles and counting with NO codes!:hope:

If they did the recall it should say on your paperwork that they did it. Key word there is should. When I got my recall done it said something like replace nox 2 sensor and flash new calibration file. Best way to know for sure is to call and ask if it was done.