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I completely agree with Robby's description, but it leaves me begging the question: What is the purpose of the molded in arrow on the surge tank? Is that the maximum HOT level? And why isn't there a better description of it in the OM? Maybe it's a design flaw that needs to be corrected (the "Certified Engineering Fix)? Also, checking the fluid level every morning seems a bit extreme, or high maintenance, for a current automotive design.
 
Since I'm already 1/4 - 3/8" above the hose, could I just add some purified drinking water to get it to 1/2" to 1" above the hose? Or do I need demin?

Assuming it's still mixed for the right temps, I can check that

IMO, if your first thing in the morning level is where you say it is, add nothing.
For grins, you might want to look at the level avter about a half hour of driving in stop and go to get a feel for how much expansion takes place.....just to learn how it works.

If you must add something, you are only talking a few ounces here......A shot of straight Dex-Cool undiluted would be OK.....the current 50/50 mix might become 55/45 and that would disappear after it circulated anyways.....right back to 50/50.

Rob
 
I completely agree with Robby's description, but it leaves me begging the question: What is the purpose of the molded in arrow on the surge tank? Is that the maximum HOT level? And why isn't there a better description of it in the OM? Maybe it's a design flaw that needs to be corrected (the "Certified Engineering Fix)? Also, checking the fluid level every morning seems a bit extreme, or high maintenance, for a current automotive design.
THAT is what I keep trying to get across.......the manufacturer has provided a arrow but is not making it clear enouph, to even the mechanics servicing the car, that this is a level that is NEVER to be exceeded.

IMO, a 'Full Cold' marker is all that would've been necessary to prevent all these odor concerns.......and, yes, an engineering oversight from the standpoint of easy misinterpetation.

Rob
 
Robby - thanks. The Cruze is the first car I've run across where the tank didn't say "Full Cold" and "Full Hot" on it. I would still ensure there is at least an inch of coolant above the main return line, especially if you live in an area with steep hills. No need to run the coolant levels so low that air gets into the system because you're going up or down hill before the engine warms up.
 
Additional thought on the coolant level issue and the molded arrow on the tank. I wonder if the original design included the rather high operating temperatures we've seen reported? i.e. the higher the coolant temperature, the more expansion volume needed in the surge tank.
 
Additional thought on the coolant level issue and the molded arrow on the tank. I wonder if the original design included the rather high operating temperatures we've seen reported? i.e. the higher the coolant temperature, the more expansion volume needed in the surge tank.
Although I have read reports of rather high operating temp, it really isn't that high for a coolant mix under pressure.....just a bit more than is often seen on other vehicles.
I suspect this is why the Cruze utilizes a 20 psi pressure cap rather than the more commonly found 16/18 psi relief design.
But again, a ten degree increase in operating temp would not likely even be visable from a expansion viewpoint.

Regarding operating temperature......I do not know where on the head the sending unit (not sensor) is located and it must be remembered that the temperature being reported is at that mounting point and is not necessarily the actual temperature.

For example, small block Chevy V-8's generally have the sender located on the outside of the left cylinder head casting......between two exaust ports..arguably one of the hottest points in the entire cooling system.
If you were to install the sender in the crossover water passage in the intake manifold, just beside the thermostat, you will find the coolant to be 10 to 15 degrees cooler.......so, begs the question: What temperature is it operating at?

Eventually the answer I settle on is 'Who cares as long as it is within its design parameters'........that being it is not overheating, temp lights aren't being triggered and the gauge is where it should be....somewhere between 3/8's to 6/8's needle travel.......if it gets higher I look into it, otherwise I refuse to cause myself brain damage worrying about something that is of no concern.


Rob
 
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